Possible early design for encapsulated stock mounting.

Haprink · 02-21-2022, 10:50 PM

Hello Happy People,

I purpose the following, a prototype stock mount for the C96, stock designed for the artillery luger, with trommel mag and possible full sear select.

Thoughts, ideas, any information out there?

Thank you

Hap

lugerholsterrepair · 02-21-2022, 11:36 PM

That's certainly different!

sheepherder · 02-22-2022, 12:13 AM

Looks reminiscent of Martz's P38 stock lug.

Any idea what the two holes in the back of the frame are for??? (Are they tapped?)

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Originally Posted by lugerholsterrepair

That's certainly different!

Mag bottom is different too.

lugerholsterrepair · 02-22-2022, 12:33 AM

Any idea what the two holes in the back of the frame are for??? (Are they tapped?)

I think you are looking at where the lanyard loop has been removed...

Haprink · 02-22-2022, 01:01 AM

Additional image.

spangy · 02-22-2022, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by lugerholsterrepair

Any idea what the two holes in the back of the frame are for??? (Are they tapped?)

I think you are looking at where the lanyard loop has been removed...

Yup ... lanyard loop holes

I think this is a Frankenluger ... a mixture of parts. JMHO

Being a 1917 slide I doubt it is an Artillery prototype Luger ... earliest known Artillery prototypes were 1912 - 1913
https://www.landofborchardt.com/pwluger.html
https://simpsonltd.com/dwm-luger-191...ery-prototype/

The frame seems to be modified at the stock lug with added metal welded to make a custom lug ... impressive work.

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DonVoigt · 02-22-2022, 10:41 AM

IMO, a home lug slot addition to repair a luger with the lug ground, or added to one that never had it. Perhaps by someone with a mauser stock and no luger stock?
Clearly a welded on piece.

Skilled "bubba" at work, JMHO.

lugerholsterrepair · 02-22-2022, 12:05 PM

This addition would make the pistol uncomfortable to shoot by hand if not impossible.

Haprink · 02-23-2022, 10:47 PM

It is not a mismatch of parts, fully matching numbers. and there is no heat discoloration to to the frame. or weld scaring. all milling lines are seamless through the metal of the stock mount.

My thoughts are the requested design prototypes for 1917-1918, trench warfare wit snail drum and stock. Since Mauser was producing the c96, perhaps they had some influences to mount and stock designs.

gunbugs · 02-23-2022, 10:51 PM

The photos show pretty obvious welds, especially on the left side.

DonVoigt · 02-24-2022, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Haprink

It is not a mismatch of parts, fully matching numbers. and there is no heat discoloration to to the frame. or weld scaring. all milling lines are seamless through the metal of the stock mount.

My thoughts are the requested design prototypes for 1917-1918, trench warfare wit snail drum and stock. Since Mauser was producing the c96, perhaps they had some influences to mount and stock designs.

Please explain away the frame pitting, but not the added lump; and the file marks.

"Seamless" milling lines only means bubba used a mill after he welded the lump to the frame.

Reasonably good work, but no factory did it and a poor design as Lugerholster guy said.

Vlim · 02-24-2022, 12:27 PM

This is a nice 'hold by beer' project, but nothing that was done by DWM or Mauser.

02-21-2022, 10:50 PM	#1
Haprink New User Join Date: Feb 2022 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 2 Posts	Possible early design for encapsulated stock mounting. Hello Happy People, I purpose the following, a prototype stock mount for the C96, stock designed for the artillery luger, with trommel mag and possible full sear select. Thoughts, ideas, any information out there? Thank you Hap Attached Thumbnails

02-21-2022, 11:36 PM	#2
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,772 Thanks: 4,933 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	That's certainly different! __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

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lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,772 Thanks: 4,933 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	Any idea what the two holes in the back of the frame are for??? (Are they tapped?) I think you are looking at where the lanyard loop has been removed... __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

02-22-2022, 01:01 AM	#5
Haprink New User Join Date: Feb 2022 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 2 Posts	Additional image. Attached Thumbnails

02-22-2022, 10:41 AM	#7
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,441 Thanked 4,350 Times in 2,040 Posts	IMO, a home lug slot addition to repair a luger with the lug ground, or added to one that never had it. Perhaps by someone with a mauser stock and no luger stock? Clearly a welded on piece. Skilled "bubba" at work, JMHO. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

02-22-2022, 12:05 PM	#8
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,772 Thanks: 4,933 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	This addition would make the pistol uncomfortable to shoot by hand if not impossible. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

02-23-2022, 10:47 PM	#9
Haprink New User Join Date: Feb 2022 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 2 Posts	It is not a mismatch of parts, fully matching numbers. and there is no heat discoloration to to the frame. or weld scaring. all milling lines are seamless through the metal of the stock mount. My thoughts are the requested design prototypes for 1917-1918, trench warfare wit snail drum and stock. Since Mauser was producing the c96, perhaps they had some influences to mount and stock designs.

02-23-2022, 10:51 PM	#10
gunbugs Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Fairbanks, Alaska. Home of the best moose. Posts: 659 Thanks: 365 Thanked 1,178 Times in 394 Posts	The photos show pretty obvious welds, especially on the left side.

02-24-2022, 12:27 PM	#12
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,988 Times in 1,205 Posts	This is a nice 'hold by beer' project, but nothing that was done by DWM or Mauser.