Unit-Marked 1918 Erfurt - Page 2

Karl · 05-12-2021, 07:27 PM

Is it loaded? Looks like the extractor is sticking up in the loaded chamber position.

KFS

ithacaartist · 05-12-2021, 11:16 PM

The Photobucket watermark is annoying.

Opening the image's link gets rid of it...

But posting directly to the forum rather than linking to outside sites is preferred, as the alien links may no longer function in the future, thus depriving incoming classes at Luger U. the chance to see what's being discussed, as well as the data your pics will represent.

Best to save the history right here--I doubt it's any more complicated to store them on this site than it is to post them to Photobucket.

Tarfu43 · 05-12-2021, 11:38 PM

For what it’s worth, I took the pictures in my camper, which doesn’t have good lighting. I think if seen in person, you might change your opinion of a re-blue. But, I do respect and appreciate your comments. Any thoughts on the unit markings or anything else? It does shoot well. I put 50 rounds through it, and it only had one FTE.

Tarfu43 · 05-12-2021, 11:49 PM

Thanks for the tips about the photos. The loaded chamber indicator is up because I have a snap-cap dummy round in the chamber.

Doubs · 05-13-2021, 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tarfu43

I think if seen in person, you might change your opinion of a re-blue.

I can see no evidence of a halo around the unit markings and having been stamped through the bluing, the letter and numbers would almost certainly display a halo after 103 years such as seen around the unit markings below. A re-blue will not have a halo around the markings.

Tarfu43 · 05-14-2021, 01:23 AM

I understand your point. I’ll try and get a better pic of the unit numbers. Thanks for your comments.

cirelaw · 05-14-2021, 12:52 PM

Example of massive halo on 1906 French Contract~

Pistol · 05-14-2021, 07:32 PM

Post a photo of the barrel serial number

cirelaw · 05-14-2021, 08:32 PM

That Is The Barrel serial number #5182, 1906 7.65mm

Tarfu43 · 05-16-2021, 12:53 AM

Here’s a couple of better pics. The markings seem to have a halo.

Doubs · 05-16-2021, 02:34 AM

Much better pictures and there does look to be halo around the unit marking and the barrel serial number indicating original finish.

Tarfu43 · 05-17-2021, 09:17 PM

Thanks for taking the time to look at my pics and comment. I do appreciate it!

Geo99 · 05-31-2021, 02:46 AM

I don't know if it's original finish or not, but just to let you know - that is way more than 80% finish (looks like at least 90 to 95%). What happened to the front gripstrap - it looks bashed in? Did someone use it for a hammer?

GerColctor · 05-31-2021, 02:36 PM

One of my Imperial Lugers is also unit marked to the 142. R. It is in my home in CT and we are still in FL until mid June, so no photos.

Tarfu43 · 07-07-2021, 07:42 PM

Please send a picture of your unit markings when you get home. I'm curious to see if it's the same font.

GerColctor · 07-17-2021, 02:13 PM

Unusual for a 1918 dated Luger to be regimental unit marked from the Imperial Army. The 142.R. is often seen on earlier dated equipment, (I have one). Whomever the regimental armorer was, he was very diligent in his duties, even after unit marking was cancelled in 1916. For whatever reason/s the discontinued protocol continued to be followed into 1917 by some military units, but rarely into '18.

05-12-2021, 11:16 PM	#22
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,346 Thanks: 7,280 Thanked 2,578 Times in 1,365 Posts	The Photobucket watermark is annoying. Opening the image's link gets rid of it... But posting directly to the forum rather than linking to outside sites is preferred, as the alien links may no longer function in the future, thus depriving incoming classes at Luger U. the chance to see what's being discussed, as well as the data your pics will represent. Best to save the history right here--I doubt it's any more complicated to store them on this site than it is to post them to Photobucket. __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

05-14-2021, 12:52 PM	#27
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Example of massive halo on 1906 French Contract~ Attached Thumbnails

05-14-2021, 08:32 PM	#29
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	That Is The Barrel serial number #5182, 1906 7.65mm Attached Thumbnails Attached Images

05-16-2021, 12:53 AM	#30
Tarfu43 User Join Date: Apr 2021 Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts	Here’s a couple of better pics. The markings seem to have a halo. Attached Thumbnails

05-31-2021, 02:46 AM	#33
Geo99 User Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Whidbey Island WA Posts: 398 Thanks: 102 Thanked 125 Times in 74 Posts	I don't know if it's original finish or not, but just to let you know - that is way more than 80% finish (looks like at least 90 to 95%). What happened to the front gripstrap - it looks bashed in? Did someone use it for a hammer? __________________ "Diplomacy is the art of saying nice doggie, until you can find a rock." - Will Rogers

05-12-2021, 07:27 PM	#21
Karl Lifer - Twice Over Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Savannah Posts: 522 Thanks: 0 Thanked 271 Times in 118 Posts	Is it loaded? Looks like the extractor is sticking up in the loaded chamber position. KFS

05-12-2021, 11:38 PM	#23
Tarfu43 User Join Date: Apr 2021 Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts	For what it’s worth, I took the pictures in my camper, which doesn’t have good lighting. I think if seen in person, you might change your opinion of a re-blue. But, I do respect and appreciate your comments. Any thoughts on the unit markings or anything else? It does shoot well. I put 50 rounds through it, and it only had one FTE.

05-12-2021, 11:49 PM	#24
Tarfu43 User Join Date: Apr 2021 Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts	Thanks for the tips about the photos. The loaded chamber indicator is up because I have a snap-cap dummy round in the chamber.

05-14-2021, 01:23 AM	#26
Tarfu43 User Join Date: Apr 2021 Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts	I understand your point. I’ll try and get a better pic of the unit numbers. Thanks for your comments.

05-14-2021, 07:32 PM	#28
Pistol User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: TN Posts: 428 Thanks: 448 Thanked 220 Times in 99 Posts	Post a photo of the barrel serial number

05-16-2021, 02:34 AM	#31
Doubs User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Byron, Georgia Posts: 1,698 Thanks: 792 Thanked 1,686 Times in 554 Posts	Much better pictures and there does look to be halo around the unit marking and the barrel serial number indicating original finish.

05-17-2021, 09:17 PM	#32
Tarfu43 User Join Date: Apr 2021 Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts	Thanks for taking the time to look at my pics and comment. I do appreciate it!

05-31-2021, 02:36 PM	#34
GerColctor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: CT & FL Posts: 312 Thanks: 2 Thanked 45 Times in 29 Posts	One of my Imperial Lugers is also unit marked to the 142. R. It is in my home in CT and we are still in FL until mid June, so no photos. __________________ It is better to have lived a day as a tiger, then a thousand years as a lamb.

07-07-2021, 07:42 PM	#35
Tarfu43 User Join Date: Apr 2021 Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts	Please send a picture of your unit markings when you get home. I'm curious to see if it's the same font.

07-17-2021, 02:13 PM	#36
GerColctor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: CT & FL Posts: 312 Thanks: 2 Thanked 45 Times in 29 Posts	Unusual for a 1918 dated Luger to be regimental unit marked from the Imperial Army. The 142.R. is often seen on earlier dated equipment, (I have one). Whomever the regimental armorer was, he was very diligent in his duties, even after unit marking was cancelled in 1916. For whatever reason/s the discontinued protocol continued to be followed into 1917 by some military units, but rarely into '18. __________________ It is better to have lived a day as a tiger, then a thousand years as a lamb.