Take down tool question

vincent · 11-06-2002, 05:54 PM

Do take down tools have numbers that correspond to dates on Lugers? I have seen several tools with different numbers. For example, a take down tool with a eagle and beneath the eagle a 655 number. If they do match certain years, what sources are available to learn about the tools. Do the cleaning rods also have numbers? Any help would be appreciated. Jeff

Edward Tinker · 11-06-2002, 06:05 PM

Yes, there are several books with pictures, but it can be difficult to figure out. As an example, (I am on the road without books), Jan Still's books Imperial Lugers, 3rd Reich, and Weimer Lugers all have a section on loading tools and how they correspond. Years and codes match but with Lugers, sometimes hard to figure out. the byf, 42 etc., do match up and generally were issued at the same time.
I am unsure if there are exceptions?

Lugerdoc · 11-07-2002, 07:56 AM

The Waffenamps on Nazi era (1934-1945) mag loading tool, will generally be the same inspectors as that stamped on the right hand receiver of the PO8. It should be remembered that the PO8 holster and these tools were issued separately from the pistols by clothing depots, so a matching inspectors mark at the time of issue is just a conincidence. It's the collectors over the years, that have attempted to bring the date of the PO8, the holster and the mag loading tool into unison. Tom H.

Johnny Peppers · 11-07-2002, 09:59 AM

Apparently the loading tool was shipped with the pistol along with the spare magazine. I can think of no other reason that the loading tools would bear the same acceptance marks as the pistols. It would have been easy enough for the tool to be seperated from the pistol once it reached the issue level.

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vincent New User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Joelton, TN Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Take down tool question Do take down tools have numbers that correspond to dates on Lugers? I have seen several tools with different numbers. For example, a take down tool with a eagle and beneath the eagle a 655 number. If they do match certain years, what sources are available to learn about the tools. Do the cleaning rods also have numbers? Any help would be appreciated. Jeff

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Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,927 Thanks: 2,026 Thanked 4,525 Times in 2,090 Posts	Yes, there are several books with pictures, but it can be difficult to figure out. As an example, (I am on the road without books), Jan Still's books Imperial Lugers, 3rd Reich, and Weimer Lugers all have a section on loading tools and how they correspond. Years and codes match but with Lugers, sometimes hard to figure out. the byf, 42 etc., do match up and generally were issued at the same time. I am unsure if there are exceptions? __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

11-07-2002, 07:56 AM	#3
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	The Waffenamps on Nazi era (1934-1945) mag loading tool, will generally be the same inspectors as that stamped on the right hand receiver of the PO8. It should be remembered that the PO8 holster and these tools were issued separately from the pistols by clothing depots, so a matching inspectors mark at the time of issue is just a conincidence. It's the collectors over the years, that have attempted to bring the date of the PO8, the holster and the mag loading tool into unison. Tom H. __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

11-07-2002, 09:59 AM	#4
Johnny Peppers User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Calion, Arkansas Posts: 1,042 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Apparently the loading tool was shipped with the pistol along with the spare magazine. I can think of no other reason that the loading tools would bear the same acceptance marks as the pistols. It would have been easy enough for the tool to be seperated from the pistol once it reached the issue level.