Got to actually hold a .45 ACP Luger today!

John Sabato · 01-31-2021, 12:14 PM

Who can guess where/who I visited this weekend?

Here is a hint!

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It has been 18 years since I had the opportunity to visit with my friend Gerry Tomek (GT) in person.

I got the full tour, met with his wonderful and hospitable family, and he walked me through the amazing process he uses to modify and improve the Numrich Arms reproduction 32-round Trommelmagazines to enable smooth functionality.

An absolutely great afternoon

Thanks Gerry for a wonderful visit.

We agreed to try and make it much less than 18 years until the next time we meet in person.

If you have one of these repro trommelmagazines (or even an original TM-08) that doesn't function smoothly, I encourage you to contact GT for the master's upgrade.

Ron Wood · 01-31-2021, 01:28 PM

John,
I am wondering what occasioned your excursion that far West, but I am happy that you seized the opportunity to visit G.T. I wish I could have been there to join in. G.T lives not very far from my daughter in Tempe, AZ, so I get to see him on a much more frequent basis than 18 years (!), and of course he is one of the prime contributors to my efforts to construct a 7-shot Baby Luger. Gerry is a long time and very dear friend, and I think the world of him.
Ron

John Sabato · 01-31-2021, 02:18 PM

Hi Ron, our daughter Amy received a job offer in Phoenix and we didn’t want her to drive out there alone. So I accompanied her to share the driving and I’m flying back on Monday morning to Virginia. I am also disappointed you and I haven’t had the opportunity to meet in person. Maybe some day.

Edward Tinker · 01-31-2021, 04:22 PM

Very nice - a difficult time to travel - I would say its been about that long since I visited with GT in person - email is much more common and he has helped me many times over the years.

I have been able to see a lot of friends at gunshows but that is really hard to do this last few years.

G.T. · 02-01-2021, 01:28 AM

It was a delight to have John visit my Hobbit like work shop, which amounts to a small two stall garage, and a 12' X 12' room in the house! We had a great time, and as always, the time flashed by as if the hours were just a few minutes! Shared memories and some entertaining tales, and before we knew it, it was time for John to depart! But, our short, shared afternoon, was medicine for the soul... I am continually amazed by the shared friendships that have been formed as a result of this forum. Many of the members here, are among the best people I know, and my door is always open to any member who would by chance like to visit. Best to you John, it was fun, and best to all, I appreciate your ongoing support! til......lat'r.....GT...

Thor · 02-01-2021, 12:02 PM

Two really quality men I have had the pleasure of knowing. Been out to GTs a couple of times, brought him a finished Navy Shooter Luger once. He always rolls out the red carpet for his guests. Yes GT, I still remember the thick porter house steaks you bought and grilled for us. Loved his P.38 collection, He has AMAZING talent. I wish Many years to have you guys around. You contribute so much to the Luger world and are great friends. PROSIT

Lyn Islaub · 02-05-2021, 05:13 PM

I was on the schedule to host these two gents, but found myself taking a Covid test instead to try and figure out the source of my feeling crappy. Test came out negative (thankfully, but not in time to see John)and I guess I have a winter cold. Sorry to have missed you guys. Next time maybe we can schedule far enough in advance to ask Ron to join us too.
Lyn

G.T. · 02-05-2021, 10:15 PM

Hi Lyn, I hope you are feeling better and was sad to hear you wouldn't be able to participate. But, we'll get something together soon, always fun and entertaining to visit with you and yours... Hopefully we can all get thru this pandemic unscathed... Best to you my friend, til....lat'r.....GT...

G.T. · 02-06-2021, 09:42 PM

In the first picture John has posted, it shows my very small, very old, horizontal "job shop" milling machine! It was probably set up much like I have it, with the operation done on one axis, in my case the vertical axis as I use it to cut the magazine catch notch in Numrich drum magazines after welding and grinding the front spine back to shape, inside and out. It is slow and tedious, but reasonably accurate! It all comes down to tooling and stability, as in, if you can hold it, a sharp tool can cut it!

But the neat part, is it's a throw back to where parts were made on big machines, and the many necessary secondary operations were done on small machines like I have? Perhaps 1000's of Luger parts manufacture operations were performed just like I'm doing. (although many times more efficient....) Anyway, that's my minds picture of it.... best, til....lat'r.....GT

01-31-2021, 12:14 PM	#1
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,154 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,306 Times in 1,097 Posts	Got to actually hold a .45 ACP Luger today! Who can guess where/who I visited this weekend? Here is a hint! It has been 18 years since I had the opportunity to visit with my friend Gerry Tomek (GT) in person. I got the full tour, met with his wonderful and hospitable family, and he walked me through the amazing process he uses to modify and improve the Numrich Arms reproduction 32-round Trommelmagazines to enable smooth functionality. An absolutely great afternoon *Thanks Gerry for a wonderful visit.* We agreed to try and make it much less than 18 years until the next time we meet in person. If you have one of these repro trommelmagazines (or even an original TM-08) that doesn't function smoothly, I encourage you to contact GT for the master's upgrade. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

01-31-2021, 01:28 PM	#2
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,022 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,178 Times in 1,703 Posts	John, I am wondering what occasioned your excursion that far West, but I am happy that you seized the opportunity to visit G.T. I wish I could have been there to join in. G.T lives not very far from my daughter in Tempe, AZ, so I get to see him on a much more frequent basis than 18 years (!), and of course he is one of the prime contributors to my efforts to construct a 7-shot Baby Luger. Gerry is a long time and very dear friend, and I think the world of him. Ron __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

01-31-2021, 02:18 PM	#3
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,154 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,306 Times in 1,097 Posts	Hi Ron, our daughter Amy received a job offer in Phoenix and we didn’t want her to drive out there alone. So I accompanied her to share the driving and I’m flying back on Monday morning to Virginia. I am also disappointed you and I haven’t had the opportunity to meet in person. Maybe some day. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

02-01-2021, 01:28 AM	#5
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,507 Thanks: 1,318 Thanked 3,653 Times in 1,004 Posts	Johns visit! It was a delight to have John visit my Hobbit like work shop, which amounts to a small two stall garage, and a 12' X 12' room in the house! We had a great time, and as always, the time flashed by as if the hours were just a few minutes! Shared memories and some entertaining tales, and before we knew it, it was time for John to depart! But, our short, shared afternoon, was medicine for the soul... I am continually amazed by the shared friendships that have been formed as a result of this forum. Many of the members here, are among the best people I know, and my door is always open to any member who would by chance like to visit. Best to you John, it was fun, and best to all, I appreciate your ongoing support! til......lat'r.....GT...

02-01-2021, 12:02 PM	#6
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Two really quality men I have had the pleasure of knowing. Been out to GTs a couple of times, brought him a finished Navy Shooter Luger once. He always rolls out the red carpet for his guests. Yes GT, I still remember the thick porter house steaks you bought and grilled for us. Loved his P.38 collection, He has AMAZING talent. I wish Many years to have you guys around. You contribute so much to the Luger world and are great friends. PROSIT __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

01-31-2021, 04:22 PM	#4
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,933 Thanks: 2,032 Thanked 4,528 Times in 2,091 Posts	Very nice - a difficult time to travel - I would say its been about that long since I visited with GT in person - email is much more common and he has helped me many times over the years. I have been able to see a lot of friends at gunshows but that is really hard to do this last few years.

02-05-2021, 05:13 PM	#7
Lyn Islaub Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 435 Thanks: 3 Thanked 152 Times in 72 Posts	I was on the schedule to host these two gents, but found myself taking a Covid test instead to try and figure out the source of my feeling crappy. Test came out negative (thankfully, but not in time to see John)and I guess I have a winter cold. Sorry to have missed you guys. Next time maybe we can schedule far enough in advance to ask Ron to join us too. Lyn

02-05-2021, 10:15 PM	#8
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,507 Thanks: 1,318 Thanked 3,653 Times in 1,004 Posts	next time! Hi Lyn, I hope you are feeling better and was sad to hear you wouldn't be able to participate. But, we'll get something together soon, always fun and entertaining to visit with you and yours... Hopefully we can all get thru this pandemic unscathed... Best to you my friend, til....lat'r.....GT...

02-06-2021, 09:42 PM	#9
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,507 Thanks: 1,318 Thanked 3,653 Times in 1,004 Posts	Johns first pic. In the first picture John has posted, it shows my very small, very old, horizontal "job shop" milling machine! It was probably set up much like I have it, with the operation done on one axis, in my case the vertical axis as I use it to cut the magazine catch notch in Numrich drum magazines after welding and grinding the front spine back to shape, inside and out. It is slow and tedious, but reasonably accurate! It all comes down to tooling and stability, as in, if you can hold it, a sharp tool can cut it! But the neat part, is it's a throw back to where parts were made on big machines, and the many necessary secondary operations were done on small machines like I have? Perhaps 1000's of Luger parts manufacture operations were performed just like I'm doing. (although many times more efficient....) Anyway, that's my minds picture of it.... best, til....lat'r.....GT