Range Day With Two Lugers

Doubs · 12-30-2020, 08:39 PM

Yesterday was beautiful. Sunny, 64 degrees and no wind... a perfect day to spend on the range. I took two Lugers and a 1911A1 clone made in the Philippines. one Luger is a 9mm and the other a .30 caliber.

The 9mm sports an 8 inch barrel and is quite accurate. When received in 1958, the mis-matched 1939 Mauser had a standard 4 inch barrel that had been counter bored. It was not reliable so my father bought the Italian made 8 inch barrel and a local gunsmith did a great job of installing it. But, it proved to be as unreliable as the shorter barrel. So, for years it sat in a drawer and was rarely shot. It became mine in 1999 and pretty much stayed in my gun safe until a few years ago. It was then that I noticed the chamber ramp was very narrow. A Dremel tool was used to throat the chamber and now it's as reliable as a Luger is likely to be. Yesterday it was shot with 115 grain flat nose bullets at 18 yards. It shoots a little low but went through two magazines (Mec-Gars) without a hitch. I can't recall the last time if malfunctioned.

The second Luger is a matching Alphabet commercial in .30 caliber that had been nickel plated many years ago. I got it in a trade with a friend. It has a sweet trigger, is accurate and has never failed to function correctly. I shot it with two different 90 grain bullets; a Hornady .309 hollow point and a Sierra .312" hollow point bullet with an exposed lead nose. The Sierra bullets are run through a .310" Lyman sizing die before loading. It also went through two magazines without a hitch.

Below are the targets, both shot two handed at 18 yards or a bit farther. The groups, while not great, are quite satisfactory to me.

tomaustin · 12-30-2020, 09:52 PM

that would certainly redirect someones bad intentions if you used this as a carry piece.....

spangy · 12-30-2020, 10:50 PM

me like

by the way ... both dead lol

adowns · 12-31-2020, 07:24 AM

How did the .45 do? It would be interesting to compare the results.

Major Tom · 12-31-2020, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by adowns

How did the .45 do? It would be interesting to compare the results.

My ATI 1911 government 45acp is very accurate. Never had a hiccup with it. It accepts common 1911 parts with no fitting. Plus the price was excellent at $450 new out the door.

Doubs · 12-31-2020, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by adowns

How did the .45 do? It would be interesting to compare the results.

This being a Luger forum, I didn't post my 1911A1 target but now that you've asked...

My "Military" 1911A1 was imported by ATI and made by Shooter's Arms Manufacturing Co. in Cebu City, Philippines. I touched up the trigger and changed the grips. Otherwise it's bone stock. IMO the quality is excellent. In addition to the Military model, I also have the "GI" model also made by S.A.M. which is more like an Officer's model. See the bottom picture.

The target below was shot at the same 18 yards. There are 22 shots on the target and the one in the arm was me. I snatched it and knew it when it fired. The gun is accurate.

Ron Wood · 12-31-2020, 01:27 PM

I feel the orange man's pain!

Not bad shooting dude.
Ron

Heinz · 12-31-2020, 06:10 PM

That one in the arm with the .45 probably took the fight out of the orange man anyhway.

lugerholsterrepair · 01-01-2021, 12:56 AM

The target below was shot at the same 18 yards. There are 22 shots on the target and the one in the arm was me. I snatched it and knew it when it fired. The gun is accurate.
And the HOLES are MUCH bigger!

Doubs · 01-01-2021, 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by lugerholsterrepair

The target below was shot at the same 18 yards. There are 22 shots on the target and the one in the arm was me. I snatched it and knew it when it fired. The gun is accurate.
And the HOLES are MUCH bigger!

Yes they are. LOL

adowns · 01-01-2021, 08:28 AM

Doubs... Thanks for the detailed follow-up on the .45. The Philippine made 1911's are a bargain.

12-30-2020, 08:39 PM	#1
Doubs User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Byron, Georgia Posts: 1,696 Thanks: 792 Thanked 1,679 Times in 552 Posts	Range Day With Two Lugers Yesterday was beautiful. Sunny, 64 degrees and no wind... a perfect day to spend on the range. I took two Lugers and a 1911A1 clone made in the Philippines. one Luger is a 9mm and the other a .30 caliber. The 9mm sports an 8 inch barrel and is quite accurate. When received in 1958, the mis-matched 1939 Mauser had a standard 4 inch barrel that had been counter bored. It was not reliable so my father bought the Italian made 8 inch barrel and a local gunsmith did a great job of installing it. But, it proved to be as unreliable as the shorter barrel. So, for years it sat in a drawer and was rarely shot. It became mine in 1999 and pretty much stayed in my gun safe until a few years ago. It was then that I noticed the chamber ramp was very narrow. A Dremel tool was used to throat the chamber and now it's as reliable as a Luger is likely to be. Yesterday it was shot with 115 grain flat nose bullets at 18 yards. It shoots a little low but went through two magazines (Mec-Gars) without a hitch. I can't recall the last time if malfunctioned. The second Luger is a matching Alphabet commercial in .30 caliber that had been nickel plated many years ago. I got it in a trade with a friend. It has a sweet trigger, is accurate and has never failed to function correctly. I shot it with two different 90 grain bullets; a Hornady .309 hollow point and a Sierra .312" hollow point bullet with an exposed lead nose. The Sierra bullets are run through a .310" Lyman sizing die before loading. It also went through two magazines without a hitch. Below are the targets, both shot two handed at 18 yards or a bit farther. The groups, while not great, are quite satisfactory to me.

12-31-2020, 01:27 PM	#7
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,019 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,173 Times in 1,701 Posts	I feel the orange man's pain! Not bad shooting dude. Ron __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

01-01-2021, 12:56 AM	#9
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,771 Thanks: 4,928 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	The target below was shot at the same 18 yards. There are 22 shots on the target and the one in the arm was me. I snatched it and knew it when it fired. The gun is accurate. And the HOLES are MUCH bigger! __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

12-30-2020, 09:52 PM	#2
tomaustin Lifer X5 Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: texas Posts: 708 Thanks: 87 Thanked 522 Times in 201 Posts	that would certainly redirect someones bad intentions if you used this as a carry piece.....

12-30-2020, 10:50 PM	#3
spangy Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: Winnipeg, Canada Posts: 617 Thanks: 3,065 Thanked 1,057 Times in 429 Posts	me like by the way ... both dead lol

12-31-2020, 07:24 AM	#4
adowns User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Alabama Posts: 15 Thanks: 21 Thanked 18 Times in 7 Posts	How did the .45 do? It would be interesting to compare the results.

12-31-2020, 06:10 PM	#8
Heinz User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Greenville SC Posts: 1,004 Thanks: 377 Thanked 410 Times in 180 Posts	That one in the arm with the .45 probably took the fight out of the orange man anyhway.

01-01-2021, 08:28 AM	#11
adowns User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Alabama Posts: 15 Thanks: 21 Thanked 18 Times in 7 Posts	Doubs... Thanks for the detailed follow-up on the .45. The Philippine made 1911's are a bargain.