Your opinions to a "k" date pistol before i would really buy it...

Bernhard · 10-07-2020, 03:56 PM

Hey guys!
I found a gun and would be interrested in what you can tell me with your expertise about a pistol just with some photos. In the meaning of what seems to be wrong, not right for this model, probably reblued or so on...
The magazine has no stamps on the bottom.
And finally what value you would estimate for it...
I can call the guy tomorrow and maybe i can ask for an important photo like the barrel inside or whatever...
Regards,
Bernhard

Bernhard · 10-07-2020, 03:58 PM

Fyi

4 Scale · 10-07-2020, 10:57 PM

I don't collect K dates and am not knowledgable of that variation but, as no one has replied, will convey some general comments.

Experienced K Date collectors say most K-dates are faked/enhanced which is especially bracing for me as the more common varieties I do collect are often altered to boost price. I cannot imagine buying a K date without a pre-inspection by an expert collector. IMO no newer collector should be considering K-dates.

As a collector of 1936-1941 military P 08s, to me the finish and K-stamp are suspicious to my eye. The s-link coupling is blued when it should be in the white, that is hard evidence of re-blue.

If you go to the Simpson Ltd. site you can find photos of original K-dates; compare them to this one and you'll see what I mean when I say it doesn't look right.

As it is refinished I would give it shooter value, $900-$1,100. Phrased differently I would not pay more than that unless a K-date expert advised that it was genuine and all-matching and I was in the market for such a pistol.

4 Scale · 10-07-2020, 11:04 PM

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4 Scale User Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 544 Thanks: 194 Thanked 489 Times in 251 Posts	I don't collect K dates and am not knowledgable of that variation but, as no one has replied, will convey some general comments. Experienced K Date collectors say most K-dates are faked/enhanced which is especially bracing for me as the more common varieties I do collect are often altered to boost price. I cannot imagine buying a K date without a pre-inspection by an expert collector. IMO no newer collector should be considering K-dates. As a collector of 1936-1941 military P 08s, to me the finish and K-stamp are suspicious to my eye. The s-link coupling is blued when it should be in the white, that is hard evidence of re-blue. If you go to the Simpson Ltd. site you can find photos of original K-dates; compare them to this one and you'll see what I mean when I say it doesn't look right. As it is refinished I would give it shooter value, $900-$1,100. Phrased differently I would not pay more than that unless a K-date expert advised that it was genuine and all-matching and I was in the market for such a pistol.

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