1902 DWM 7,65mm para Luger - Page 2

Parabellus · 10-04-2011, 08:53 PM

Hi Rick,

I had a hunch I might find you here.
Congrats on this fine piece of history that is now in your hand.
Pictures of the chamber markings would be very helpful.

Russ

RickJZ · 10-05-2011, 01:09 PM

There are no chamber markings present on my Luger; only the DWM marking on the toggle. What is the significance of this?

DavidJayUden · 10-05-2011, 01:51 PM

Only that it was probably not originally intended for export to the USA.
dju

Dwight Gruber · 10-07-2011, 11:35 PM

Is there a GERMANY stamp under the serial number on the frame?

--Dwight

RickJZ · 10-08-2011, 07:29 AM

Dwight,
There is no Germany stamp on the frame.

Dwight Gruber · 10-09-2011, 01:29 PM

There are many Old Model commercials (no chamber stamp) with a GERMANY export mark. This is what indicates an export to the US, not the presence or absence of an American Eagle chamber stamp. This does indeed indicate that your gun was not origianlly a USA-marketed export. No accounting for how it ended up here.

--Dwight

RickJZ · 08-09-2016, 06:46 PM

Attached are some additional photos. This Luger may be going to auction in the near future. Potentially, I may post it in the classified section here.

Ron Wood · 08-09-2016, 09:27 PM

Rick,
You have what appears to be a relatively nice 1900 Commercial Luger that was not marked for distribution to the American market and has a home made magazine base.
It would be a nice approach for you to determine an asking price with which you are comfortable and allow forum members a chance to acquire your Luger. Good luck with whatever you decide to do.
Ron

RickJZ · 03-15-2020, 01:34 PM

Apologies on bringing a thread back from the dead....sale of this particular model 1900 did not go through years ago. I have attached some better photos of the commercial example.

Heinz · 03-16-2020, 04:47 PM

You should be glad you still have that. Looks like a nice one.

RickJZ · 03-16-2020, 05:19 PM

Thanks! Yes, I am quite glad to still have this one.

RickJZ · 09-07-2020, 12:05 PM

UPDATE: I have decided to sell the early 1900 commercial DWM Luger that was not destined for export. Really would like to see it go to a collector that focuses on acquiring early models. The pistol can be viewed on Legacy Collectibles. Many excellent photos are provided. The asking price is quite reasonable considering condition and scarcity of the pistol. Overall condition is a solid 85% with all matching parts. The only nuiance is the magazine base.

spacecoast · 09-10-2020, 05:38 PM

You may want to ask Legacy to provide a closeup view of the left side of the pistol with the safety lever in the "up" position, as the area under that lever (on Old Model Lugers) is crucial for a potential buyer deciding whether the pistol has its original finish. Legacy should know that by now.

10-04-2011, 08:53 PM	#21
Parabellus User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: SF Bay Posts: 195 Thanks: 16 Thanked 9 Times in 4 Posts	Hi Rick, I had a hunch I might find you here. Congrats on this fine piece of history that is now in your hand. Pictures of the chamber markings would be very helpful. Russ __________________

08-09-2016, 06:46 PM	#27
RickJZ User Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 28 Thanks: 8 Thanked 17 Times in 7 Posts	Attached are some additional photos. This Luger may be going to auction in the near future. Potentially, I may post it in the classified section here. Attached Thumbnails

08-09-2016, 09:27 PM	#28
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,020 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,174 Times in 1,701 Posts	Rick, You have what appears to be a relatively nice 1900 Commercial Luger that was not marked for distribution to the American market and has a home made magazine base. It would be a nice approach for you to determine an asking price with which you are comfortable and allow forum members a chance to acquire your Luger. Good luck with whatever you decide to do. Ron __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

03-15-2020, 01:34 PM	#29
RickJZ User Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 28 Thanks: 8 Thanked 17 Times in 7 Posts	Apologies on bringing a thread back from the dead....sale of this particular model 1900 did not go through years ago. I have attached some better photos of the commercial example. Attached Thumbnails

09-07-2020, 12:05 PM	#32
RickJZ User Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 28 Thanks: 8 Thanked 17 Times in 7 Posts	UPDATE: I have decided to sell the early 1900 commercial DWM Luger that was not destined for export. Really would like to see it go to a collector that focuses on acquiring early models. The pistol can be viewed on Legacy Collectibles. Many excellent photos are provided. The asking price is quite reasonable considering condition and scarcity of the pistol. Overall condition is a solid 85% with all matching parts. The only nuiance is the magazine base. Last edited by RickJZ; 09-07-2020 at 02:00 PM. Reason: Grammar correction

10-05-2011, 01:09 PM	#22
RickJZ User Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 28 Thanks: 8 Thanked 17 Times in 7 Posts	There are no chamber markings present on my Luger; only the DWM marking on the toggle. What is the significance of this?

10-05-2011, 01:51 PM	#23
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Only that it was probably not originally intended for export to the USA. dju

10-07-2011, 11:35 PM	#24
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,901 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,316 Times in 430 Posts	Is there a GERMANY stamp under the serial number on the frame? --Dwight

10-08-2011, 07:29 AM	#25
RickJZ User Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 28 Thanks: 8 Thanked 17 Times in 7 Posts	Dwight, There is no Germany stamp on the frame.

10-09-2011, 01:29 PM	#26
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,901 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,316 Times in 430 Posts	There are many Old Model commercials (no chamber stamp) with a GERMANY export mark. This is what indicates an export to the US, not the presence or absence of an American Eagle chamber stamp. This does indeed indicate that your gun was not origianlly a USA-marketed export. No accounting for how it ended up here. --Dwight

03-16-2020, 04:47 PM	#30
Heinz User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Greenville SC Posts: 1,004 Thanks: 377 Thanked 410 Times in 180 Posts	You should be glad you still have that. Looks like a nice one.

03-16-2020, 05:19 PM	#31
RickJZ User Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 28 Thanks: 8 Thanked 17 Times in 7 Posts	Thanks! Yes, I am quite glad to still have this one.

09-10-2020, 05:38 PM	#33
spacecoast User Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: FL and PA Posts: 332 Thanks: 276 Thanked 243 Times in 109 Posts	You may want to ask Legacy to provide a closeup view of the left side of the pistol with the safety lever in the "up" position, as the area under that lever (on Old Model Lugers) is crucial for a potential buyer deciding whether the pistol has its original finish. Legacy should know that by now. __________________ My avatars are the Bulgarian word for "Fire", as seen on my 1900, 1906 and 1908 Bulgarian Contract DWM Lugers. Looking for a DWM Commercial side plate #95