Commercial production in 9mm

gunnertwo · 07-11-2020, 06:20 AM

Is there an estimate of the quantity of commercial pistols produced in 9mm caliber prior to the end of WW1?

Thanks,

G2

Dwight Gruber · 07-11-2020, 09:03 AM

Greg,

No.

Documentary evidence has vanished. Published authors aver the number of New Model 9mm and commercial P08s without source. It is all guesswork based on the thinnest of sample reporting. Statistically the sample is so small as to be meaningless, and sample distribution is unguessable.

--Dwight

gunnertwo · 07-11-2020, 06:20 PM

Thank you Dwight. My reason in the question relates to the popularity of the "new" 9mm cartridge. Was it increasing in use since the German army and navy adopted the caliber? I viewed the serial database, that lead me to the question. The war undoubtedly limited the availability of private sales in that caliber. Does that make a Parabellum in 9mm scarce or rare?

G2

George Anderson · 07-12-2020, 09:38 AM

German officers were required to buy their own sidearms thus most, if not all, 9mm commercial Lugers of the period were officer private purchase weapons.

Dwight Gruber · 07-12-2020, 11:02 AM

George, do you mean that to include New Model 9mm?

--Dwight

George Anderson · 07-12-2020, 12:45 PM

[QUOTE=Dwight Gruber;332409]George, do you mean that to include New Model 9mm?

I 'm referring to the commercial model of the P 08.

07-11-2020, 06:20 AM	#1
gunnertwo User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Nampa, Idaho Posts: 621 Thanks: 821 Thanked 930 Times in 363 Posts	Commercial production in 9mm Is there an estimate of the quantity of commercial pistols produced in 9mm caliber prior to the end of WW1? Thanks, G2

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Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,900 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,312 Times in 430 Posts	Greg, No. Documentary evidence has vanished. Published authors aver the number of New Model 9mm and commercial P08s without source. It is all guesswork based on the thinnest of sample reporting. Statistically the sample is so small as to be meaningless, and sample distribution is unguessable. --Dwight

07-11-2020, 06:20 PM	#3
gunnertwo User Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Nampa, Idaho Posts: 621 Thanks: 821 Thanked 930 Times in 363 Posts	Thank you Dwight. My reason in the question relates to the popularity of the "new" 9mm cartridge. Was it increasing in use since the German army and navy adopted the caliber? I viewed the serial database, that lead me to the question. The war undoubtedly limited the availability of private sales in that caliber. Does that make a Parabellum in 9mm scarce or rare? G2

07-12-2020, 09:38 AM	#4
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,528 Times in 787 Posts	German officers were required to buy their own sidearms thus most, if not all, 9mm commercial Lugers of the period were officer private purchase weapons.

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Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,900 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,312 Times in 430 Posts	George, do you mean that to include New Model 9mm? --Dwight

07-12-2020, 12:45 PM	#6
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,528 Times in 787 Posts	[QUOTE=Dwight Gruber;332409]George, do you mean that to include New Model 9mm? I 'm referring to the commercial model of the P 08.