Black widow grips

Lucas mihalovic · 04-10-2019, 10:22 PM

Black widow grips for sale!! Even though they failed hot pin test(hot knife threw butter), holes aren’t threaded, feels and smells like non bakelite plastic......paid 390 for them. Bought them from Phoenix investment arms and the guys there guarantee there authenticity because they plucked them out of an armorers kit themselves🙂??????? Any takers☠️🤪🤔?

John Sabato · 04-10-2019, 10:34 PM

Photos in clear focus and close up please. You paid 390 what for them? Dollars? One set of grips?

Lucas mihalovic · 04-10-2019, 10:45 PM

Hello John...with all do respect....no need for photos for they are reproduction grips. Paid way to much for them. Would sell them for 20 dollars. Just making a joke here I guess

G.T. · 04-10-2019, 11:20 PM

Hi Lucas, Hey! Just because they are not Bakelite, and also not Mauser, still leaves the door open for a "good" set of black plastic grips.. I'll explain how... Back in the 1990's, a bunch of Swedish, or Finnish, (can't remember which?) P.08 lugers were imported into the US, most if not all were sporting brand new black plastic grip sets, and most if not all, were re-barreled to a 5" 9mm barrel with a more square front sight. I was the recipient of many of these grips and barrels as I was working for Mr. John V. Martz at the time, and a lion share of the take off stuff ended up with me... The grips are high quality, and injection molded, which give them a quality appearance, and a very good fit, as they were made to fit perfect, and not shrink like a cast set? The only problem was, they were not Bakelite, and as such, not as resistant to solvents and cleaner oils which reacted over time with the shiny surfaces? They were the same as originals on the front, but very different on the back, and easily recognized by that difference alone. Also, they were engineered more for the DWM frame, as I think the Lugers so equipped were original DWM 1923 commercial, more info from the members, I may be all wet on some, but I know they exist….. best to all, til…..lat'r…..GT...….

G.T. · 04-10-2019, 11:27 PM

BTW, I'll buy them for $20.00 or trade something for them....best, til....lat'r....GT

Lucas mihalovic · 04-10-2019, 11:27 PM

Thanks g.t. For the info....I hope someday to be as knowledgeable to Lugers as you are...your info does give me hope and comfort. Unfortunately the seller claimed they are bakelite off of a 41 byf and even posted “bakelite” on the receipt. Still a little skeptical and will sell for a good price!

Lucas mihalovic · 04-10-2019, 11:29 PM

And they are yours if you want them!

HerrKaiser · 04-10-2019, 11:31 PM

I have a set of GT’s described black grips on my shooter. They are quite nice.

G.T. · 04-11-2019, 12:44 AM

I would love to buy them from you, or trade for them, we can do either your choice! And I will probably trade to your advantage.... Email me at: gctomeks@msn.com Thanks Lucas, til…..lat'r…..GT...

mrerick · 04-11-2019, 10:28 AM

A reminder, even though this was a "tongue in cheek" for sale ad, we do have forum rules. Prices must be listed (and were not initially by the OP), and discussion is not permitted in for sale threads.

Since Gerald has made the offer and the OP has apparently agreed, I'm closing this one.

I'm also moving this to an appropriate forum.

04-10-2019, 10:22 PM	#1
Lucas mihalovic User Join Date: Mar 2019 Posts: 11 Thanks: 12 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Black widow grips Black widow grips for sale!! Even though they failed hot pin test(hot knife threw butter), holes aren’t threaded, feels and smells like non bakelite plastic......paid 390 for them. Bought them from Phoenix investment arms and the guys there guarantee there authenticity because they plucked them out of an armorers kit themselves🙂??????? Any takers☠️🤪🤔?

04-10-2019, 10:34 PM	#2
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,154 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,306 Times in 1,097 Posts	Photos in clear focus and close up please. You paid 390 what for them? Dollars? One set of grips? __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

04-10-2019, 11:20 PM	#4
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,507 Thanks: 1,318 Thanked 3,653 Times in 1,004 Posts	Bakelite grip pics? Hi Lucas, Hey! Just because they are not Bakelite, and also not Mauser, still leaves the door open for a "good" set of black plastic grips.. I'll explain how... Back in the 1990's, a bunch of Swedish, or Finnish, (can't remember which?) P.08 lugers were imported into the US, most if not all were sporting brand new black plastic grip sets, and most if not all, were re-barreled to a 5" 9mm barrel with a more square front sight. I was the recipient of many of these grips and barrels as I was working for Mr. John V. Martz at the time, and a lion share of the take off stuff ended up with me... The grips are high quality, and injection molded, which give them a quality appearance, and a very good fit, as they were made to fit perfect, and not shrink like a cast set? The only problem was, they were not Bakelite, and as such, not as resistant to solvents and cleaner oils which reacted over time with the shiny surfaces? They were the same as originals on the front, but very different on the back, and easily recognized by that difference alone. Also, they were engineered more for the DWM frame, as I think the Lugers so equipped were original DWM 1923 commercial, more info from the members, I may be all wet on some, but I know they exist….. best to all, til…..lat'r…..GT...….

04-10-2019, 11:27 PM	#5
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,507 Thanks: 1,318 Thanked 3,653 Times in 1,004 Posts	Black grips BTW, I'll buy them for $20.00 or trade something for them....best, til....lat'r....GT

04-10-2019, 11:31 PM	#8
HerrKaiser User Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: South Carolina Posts: 848 Thanks: 784 Thanked 861 Times in 411 Posts	I have a set of GT’s described black grips on my shooter. They are quite nice. __________________ -QM Looking for Mauser S/42 toggle train #22

04-10-2019, 10:45 PM	#3
Lucas mihalovic User Join Date: Mar 2019 Posts: 11 Thanks: 12 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Hello John...with all do respect....no need for photos for they are reproduction grips. Paid way to much for them. Would sell them for 20 dollars. Just making a joke here I guess

04-10-2019, 11:29 PM	#7
Lucas mihalovic User Join Date: Mar 2019 Posts: 11 Thanks: 12 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	And they are yours if you want them!

04-11-2019, 12:44 AM	#9
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,507 Thanks: 1,318 Thanked 3,653 Times in 1,004 Posts	Hi Lucas I would love to buy them from you, or trade for them, we can do either your choice! And I will probably trade to your advantage.... Email me at: gctomeks@msn.com Thanks Lucas, til…..lat'r…..GT...

04-11-2019, 10:28 AM	#10
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,909 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 3,110 Times in 1,510 Posts	A reminder, even though this was a "tongue in cheek" for sale ad, we do have forum rules. Prices must be listed (and were not initially by the OP), and discussion is not permitted in for sale threads. Since Gerald has made the offer and the OP has apparently agreed, I'm closing this one. I'm also moving this to an appropriate forum. __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.