Luger Frame Tooling Marks Study - Page 4

meadowlark · 04-02-2019, 12:23 PM

Here's a pic of the tooling marks on my 1938 P08. I'm new to this forum and don't know what they mean. Hopefully someone can help me out with this.

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wlyon · 04-02-2019, 01:13 PM

They are normal inspectors marks. Bill

DavidJayUden · 04-02-2019, 02:36 PM

The occasional letter or number inside of the frame rarely mean much to the gun. We primarily focus on the outer markings.
dju

Edward Tinker · 04-02-2019, 03:00 PM

To understand inner markings, and toolmarks takes many years - I am 58 and a bit lost on this subject

mrerick · 04-03-2019, 10:17 AM

Hi Paul, and welcome to the forum.

These tooling marks help provide some insight into the type of milling tools used to broach out the interior of the frame's forging, as well as the sequence that the tools were used in.

There is enough difference between the different manufacturers that you can clearly see which factory and process sequence made the frame. The small letters, numbers and symbols are individual departmental worker inspection marks used to confirm completion of each of the sequence of processes within the factory that made the gun. Those process documents are no longer available so we don't know which individual was associated with a particular marking or even which process was gauged, inspected and verified as completed.

These factory processes were, of course, documented by companies like Mauser that made your Luger. Some of that original material surfaces periodically.

04-02-2019, 12:23 PM	#61
meadowlark User Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Florida Posts: 53 Thanks: 33 Thanked 26 Times in 13 Posts	1938 P08 tooling marks Here's a pic of the tooling marks on my 1938 P08. I'm new to this forum and don't know what they mean. Hopefully someone can help me out with this.

04-02-2019, 01:13 PM	#62
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,635 Thanks: 3,174 Thanked 2,555 Times in 954 Posts	They are normal inspectors marks. Bill __________________ Bill Lyon

04-03-2019, 10:17 AM	#65
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,909 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 3,110 Times in 1,510 Posts	Hi Paul, and welcome to the forum. These tooling marks help provide some insight into the type of milling tools used to broach out the interior of the frame's forging, as well as the sequence that the tools were used in. There is enough difference between the different manufacturers that you can clearly see which factory and process sequence made the frame. The small letters, numbers and symbols are individual departmental worker inspection marks used to confirm completion of each of the sequence of processes within the factory that made the gun. Those process documents are no longer available so we don't know which individual was associated with a particular marking or even which process was gauged, inspected and verified as completed. These factory processes were, of course, documented by companies like Mauser that made your Luger. Some of that original material surfaces periodically. __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

04-02-2019, 02:36 PM	#63
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	The occasional letter or number inside of the frame rarely mean much to the gun. We primarily focus on the outer markings. dju

04-02-2019, 03:00 PM	#64
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,931 Thanks: 2,031 Thanked 4,527 Times in 2,090 Posts	To understand inner markings, and toolmarks takes many years - I am 58 and a bit lost on this subject