Krieghoff Luger - Page 3

alvin · 11-28-2009, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom R

What makes te Krieghoffs any better than say a mauser or hk?

I don't have a Krieghoff. But here is the story that I've heard so far:

(1) It's high quality. Krieghoff's parts are interexchangable. Not a big deal in CNC age, but it's not an easy task in that era. And, Mauser did not achieve parts interchangability until postwar;

(2) It's rare. Mauser made almost 1 million Lugers and Krieghoff made around 12,000. When many collectors competing for fewer guns, the price goes high;

(3) It's associated with Nazi Air Force. Nowadays, Nazi Navy and Air Force items are hot. Another example is Mauser 1934. Regular 1934 is a 3 digit item. But if it carries a M over Eagle, it's not a pocket pistol anymore.

Market. Comercial Krieghoff is even more rare than military. Although it's not Nazi Air Force related, the production volume is low enough to support its high asking price. We seldomly see it.

(4) Collectors acquired them expansively, so it must go out expansively. No one wants to lose money.

"hk" is just another name for Krieghoff. There is a post war factory abbreviated "h&k" which has nothing to do with Krieghoff, but h&k also makes high quality small arms and it is more or less like Mauser of our era.

cirelaw · 11-28-2009, 03:02 PM

Alvin, I agree with you wholeheartedly. I look at Luger Collecting very different today. I started my luger collection maybe 7 years ago, with a 1906 Frenchy, a 1900 Test Luger, a 1920 Luger Carbine, a 1908 Navy, a 1913 Erfurt, a 1917 DWM Police, an undated sneak , and lastly I swear with my fingers crossed to Debbie, my Wife A 1937 Kreighoff that is my last. What is My Favorite, well I have no children but I guess my Lugers are my adopted children. You love them each in their own way! How Do You Feel?

cirelaw · 11-28-2009, 06:02 PM

I doesn't want to sound Snobby but they really look and feel better and all my others listed above. If you ever drove an older Jaguer, You will know what I mean. The only 2 that come close is the 1900 Test Luger and the 1920 Carbine, Im sure opinions would differ. Try to pick one up at a giunshow. Ill post them and take a look. One more thing, I've bought all me Lugers from Grandpa Ralph.

Tom R · 12-02-2009, 12:12 AM

Thank you much for the explanation. I just recently picked up my first luger after searching for twenty years off and on. I found a 1941 byf with matching numbers throughout and I'm proud as hell. See my Dad always wanted one and never got one before he passed it almost like another mission in life has been completed, made me feel good. I plan on taking it to the Veterans cemetary and showing it to him this week if it doesn't sound to weird to you guys

Ron Wood · 12-02-2009, 12:19 AM

Tom,
Tell Dad hi for me, one vet to another, and that you got a good gun. A 1941 byf was my first Luger too.

wlyon · 12-02-2009, 11:49 AM

Tom
Doesn't sound weird to me. From one vet to another tell him hello and thank him for his service. I think it's great that you think that much of your dad. My father was a ww1 vet and I still thank him and miss him. Nice luger enjoy and welcome to the forum. Bill

cirelaw · 12-02-2009, 12:04 PM

You Know, It doesnt matter which war or conflict, each of You committed a valuable part of your lives to the service or our sacred Country and for that reason each of us are eternally grateful~

Tom R · 12-09-2009, 04:09 AM

Semper Fi

jay Christensen · 12-10-2009, 05:55 PM

After much soul searching I have decided to sell my Dad's Luger. Considering the ground off stock lug, how much should I ask? I already have a $3,000. offer. I want to thank everybody on the forum for the help and information you have given me. Thanks again, Jay.

Madcow · 04-03-2010, 01:09 AM

I would be interested do you still have it?

George Anderson · 02-02-2018, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cirelaw

Can someone post the Kriegoff Tables because i want to read what is written by some of the finest experts! #7932

Eric, you need to get Debbie to buy you a copy of Gibson's "The Krieghoff Parabellum". It lists all reported Krieghoffs at the time of his writing the book in 1980. Your 1937 is not listed but a couple that are numbered close to yours are.

cirelaw · 02-02-2018, 01:07 PM

Debby ordered the pretty blue book!! tks

Edward Tinker · 02-02-2018, 02:45 PM

Eric, first posting - updated 11/2015 by Tom Whiteman http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?t=18641

Tom used to keep up the listing and post it a couple of times a year. However after Pete Ebbink took it over (hostile takeover) - Tom quit publishing his listing to the forums.
Pete has a listing, on Jan's forum, if you ask for it I believe, rather than publicly sharing it.

11-28-2009, 06:02 PM	#43
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	I doesn't want to sound Snobby but they really look and feel better and all my others listed above. If you ever drove an older Jaguer, You will know what I mean. The only 2 that come close is the 1900 Test Luger and the 1920 Carbine, Im sure opinions would differ. Try to pick one up at a giunshow. Ill post them and take a look. One more thing, I've bought all me Lugers from Grandpa Ralph. Attached Thumbnails Attached Images

12-02-2009, 12:19 AM	#45
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,019 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,173 Times in 1,701 Posts	Tom, Tell Dad hi for me, one vet to another, and that you got a good gun. A 1941 byf was my first Luger too. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

12-02-2009, 11:49 AM	#46
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,635 Thanks: 3,174 Thanked 2,555 Times in 954 Posts	Tom Doesn't sound weird to me. From one vet to another tell him hello and thank him for his service. I think it's great that you think that much of your dad. My father was a ww1 vet and I still thank him and miss him. Nice luger enjoy and welcome to the forum. Bill __________________ Bill Lyon

12-02-2009, 12:04 PM	#47
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	You Know, It doesnt matter which war or conflict, each of You committed a valuable part of your lives to the service or our sacred Country and for that reason each of us are eternally grateful~ Last edited by cirelaw; 12-09-2009 at 10:05 AM.

12-10-2009, 05:55 PM	#49
jay Christensen User Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 8 Thanks: 4 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Krieghoff Luger After much soul searching I have decided to sell my Dad's Luger. Considering the ground off stock lug, how much should I ask? I already have a $3,000. offer. I want to thank everybody on the forum for the help and information you have given me. Thanks again, Jay.

11-28-2009, 03:02 PM	#42
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Alvin, I agree with you wholeheartedly. I look at Luger Collecting very different today. I started my luger collection maybe 7 years ago, with a 1906 Frenchy, a 1900 Test Luger, a 1920 Luger Carbine, a 1908 Navy, a 1913 Erfurt, a 1917 DWM Police, an undated sneak , and lastly I swear with my fingers crossed to Debbie, my Wife A 1937 Kreighoff that is my last. What is My Favorite, well I have no children but I guess my Lugers are my adopted children. You love them each in their own way! How Do You Feel?

12-02-2009, 12:12 AM	#44
Tom R User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Coventry, Rhode Island Posts: 7 Thanks: 11 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thank you much for the explanation. I just recently picked up my first luger after searching for twenty years off and on. I found a 1941 byf with matching numbers throughout and I'm proud as hell. See my Dad always wanted one and never got one before he passed it almost like another mission in life has been completed, made me feel good. I plan on taking it to the Veterans cemetary and showing it to him this week if it doesn't sound to weird to you guys

12-09-2009, 04:09 AM	#48
Tom R User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Coventry, Rhode Island Posts: 7 Thanks: 11 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Semper Fi

04-03-2010, 01:09 AM	#50
Madcow User Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 53 Thanks: 1 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts	I would be interested do you still have it? __________________ Don't take life too seriously, because your not going to make it out alive.

02-02-2018, 01:07 PM	#52
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Debby ordered the pretty blue book!! tks

02-02-2018, 02:45 PM	#53
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,930 Thanks: 2,030 Thanked 4,527 Times in 2,090 Posts	Eric, first posting - updated 11/2015 by Tom Whiteman http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?t=18641 Tom used to keep up the listing and post it a couple of times a year. However after Pete Ebbink took it over (hostile takeover) - Tom quit publishing his listing to the forums. Pete has a listing, on Jan's forum, if you ask for it I believe, rather than publicly sharing it.