Bogus Navy Luger K Date

spartacus38 · 03-01-2017, 03:44 PM

Gunbroker # 625024429
Beware, it is not a Navy K Date Luger.
Bob

beachbaker · 03-01-2017, 04:24 PM

Here it is http://www.gunbroker.com/item/625024429

Dick Herman · 03-01-2017, 05:44 PM

Bob,
Why is this not a Navy K date?
Are there is a any legitimate Navy K dates?

abukafura · 03-01-2017, 05:58 PM

I looked at this Luger on GB. Very little wear to the side plate, rails, or the muzzle band. It still looks good. I would also like t o know why it is labeled a "fake"?

spartacus38 · 03-01-2017, 06:30 PM

The highest recorded Navy K Date is in the 2400, no suffix, range.Take a look at this one.
All recorded Navy K date lugers are 0 37 proofed.What is the proof on this one?
There are other things also wrong with this K date.
Yes,there are legitimate Navy Lugers, but not many.
Bob Young
Specializing in collecting K Date Lugers for 20 years.
Spartacus38@charter.net

John Sabato · 03-02-2017, 10:43 AM

I am certainly not an expert on K-dates, but let me ask if anyone else thinks that the "K" looks like other K-date Lugers or is a departure from the normal stamping.

Something just doesn't look right to me about it... it appears to be off-center of the top of the chamber, and crudely stamped compared to those K stamps I have seen previously...

Could this receiver have been carefully ground off and the K added? or am I imagining things...

Inquiring minds want to know.

alanint · 03-02-2017, 11:40 AM

I find that every single one of the stampings show evidence of some buffing and blueing AFTER the stamps were applied. Note especially the sideplate.

03-01-2017, 03:44 PM	#1
spartacus38 Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: South Lake Tahoe,CA. Posts: 695 Thanks: 0 Thanked 70 Times in 56 Posts	Bogus Navy Luger K Date Gunbroker # 625024429 Beware, it is not a Navy K Date Luger. Bob

03-01-2017, 04:24 PM	#2
beachbaker Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: california Posts: 135 Thanks: 27 Thanked 106 Times in 29 Posts	Here it is http://www.gunbroker.com/item/625024429 __________________ Curt

03-02-2017, 10:43 AM	#6
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,154 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,306 Times in 1,097 Posts	I am certainly not an expert on K-dates, but let me ask if anyone else thinks that the "K" looks like other K-date Lugers or is a departure from the normal stamping. Something just doesn't look right to me about it... it appears to be off-center of the top of the chamber, and crudely stamped compared to those K stamps I have seen previously... Could this receiver have been carefully ground off and the K added? or am I imagining things... Inquiring minds want to know. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

03-01-2017, 05:44 PM	#3
Dick Herman User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 302 Thanks: 496 Thanked 354 Times in 138 Posts	Bob, Why is this not a Navy K date? Are there is a any legitimate Navy K dates?

03-01-2017, 05:58 PM	#4
abukafura Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Northeast Wisconsin, near Greeen Bay Posts: 327 Thanks: 1,314 Thanked 89 Times in 57 Posts	I looked at this Luger on GB. Very little wear to the side plate, rails, or the muzzle band. It still looks good. I would also like t o know why it is labeled a "fake"?

03-01-2017, 06:30 PM	#5
spartacus38 Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: South Lake Tahoe,CA. Posts: 695 Thanks: 0 Thanked 70 Times in 56 Posts	The highest recorded Navy K Date is in the 2400, no suffix, range.Take a look at this one. All recorded Navy K date lugers are 0 37 proofed.What is the proof on this one? There are other things also wrong with this K date. Yes,there are legitimate Navy Lugers, but not many. Bob Young Specializing in collecting K Date Lugers for 20 years. Spartacus38@charter.net

03-02-2017, 11:40 AM	#7
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	I find that every single one of the stampings show evidence of some buffing and blueing AFTER the stamps were applied. Note especially the sideplate.