42 BYF Military P.08 Luger 9mm Help.. - Page 2

RichSr · 01-29-2016, 01:29 PM

SA dagger is marked "Alles für Deutschland", or "All for Germany"

Clubbinaz · 01-29-2016, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by mrerick

As already mentioned, Lugers were numbered from 1 to 10,000 in each lettered block, and you have "89f" made very early in the F block in 1942. The full serial number appears on the front of the frame above the trigger guard. "89" over the letter "f".

It was made toward the end of military Luger production by Mauser in Oberndorf. "byf" was their concealment code, and the E/135 inspector worked there.

Your milled steel magazines with plastic bases are original and considered matching for this gun, and are properly un-numbered. They were made by Haenel Schmeisser and have an E/37 acceptance stamp and "fxo" maker's concealment code.

What number is inside the trigger plate? There may be no number, or it might be "01" or "9"...

As your Luger is all matching and appears to be in original finish, it is considered collectible. Many of us do not fire collectible guns because of the potential of breaking an original numbered part. Avoid storing it in it's holster. It's unlikely, but moisture and tanning chemicals that sometimes remain in the leather can damage the finish.

Marc

I figured the trigger plate out, there's a very clear 1 and I also noted that theres another matching serial on the trigger itself.

kurusu · 01-29-2016, 04:34 PM

Congratulations on your fine byf 42.

Lugerdoc · 01-29-2016, 06:31 PM

Nice SA dagger & scabbard. I wonder if the d or p on the tang may indicate a particular Gruppen. TH

wayne8661 · 06-05-2016, 01:44 PM

Tom
, they do refer to a cerain SA Gruppe. This one would be SA Gruppe Pommern.

mrerick · 06-05-2016, 01:51 PM

Very interesting. That's the first Mauser side plate I've seen on a gun with a serial number with only two numeric digits.

It appears that the internal process stamped one plus the missing "00" leading digits, resulting in "1"...

Now, I wonder how they internally stamped a serial number "9912a" gun... "100" or "0"?

Marc

John Sabato · 06-06-2016, 10:50 AM

One of the nicest byf Lugers I have ever seen and the very first I have ever seen with less than 4 digit serial number. Congrats!

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RichSr User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: West Texas Posts: 128 Thanks: 153 Thanked 54 Times in 36 Posts	SA dagger is marked "Alles für Deutschland", or "All for Germany" __________________ Rich

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Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Nice SA dagger & scabbard. I wonder if the d or p on the tang may indicate a particular Gruppen. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

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mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,901 Thanks: 1,372 Thanked 3,094 Times in 1,503 Posts	Very interesting. That's the first Mauser side plate I've seen on a gun with a serial number with only two numeric digits. It appears that the internal process stamped one plus the missing "00" leading digits, resulting in "1"... Now, I wonder how they internally stamped a serial number "9912a" gun... "100" or "0"? Marc __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war. Last edited by mrerick; 06-06-2016 at 11:57 AM.

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John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,152 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	One of the nicest byf Lugers I have ever seen and the very first I have ever seen with less than 4 digit serial number. Congrats! __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

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kurusu User Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,225 Thanks: 2,679 Thanked 929 Times in 509 Posts	Congratulations on your fine byf 42.

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wayne8661 User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Kennett Square Pennsylvania Posts: 591 Thanks: 15 Thanked 334 Times in 104 Posts	Tom , they do refer to a cerain SA Gruppe. This one would be SA Gruppe Pommern.