Reproduction small box for Erma .22 conversion for P 08 -

DonVoigt · 10-29-2015, 07:43 PM

Ed had two of these for sale a couple weeks back.
Someone had done a good job cloning the small box that was used for storage of these conversion kits. The compartments are self-explanatory,
except for the lower right one in the last picture- it is for the 9mm ejector which must be removed from the luger upper to install the kit.

Unfortunately the lids and bases had warped, and the boxes would not close.

So after a couple days in the wood shop, re-fitting the compartments, and repairing the latch mechanism one of the boxes is in order for its intended use!

I have one more to re-work and will likely pass it along to an interested luger collector.

Edward Tinker · 10-29-2015, 07:54 PM

looks great,I should send the THIRD one that came with this group of parts and have you work on it

Did an excellent job Don.

DonVoigt · 10-29-2015, 08:00 PM

Thanks Ed.

it takes about 8 hours of hand work to do the re-work. It would be quicker if the guy had not stained the original boxes. One can't get the stain out of the compartments, that's why they are black.
Natural or "blond" is the color of the original boxes of the era; some of the long boxes may have been painted flat green.

PS-
If anyone has a spare knurled nut for the barrel, I could use one. The original kit came with two; mine only one.
I bought one from Sarco, but it is larger in diameter, ok for using installed, but won't fit in the box!

Lugerdoc · 10-30-2015, 09:54 AM

Don, What OD do you need? I have a few, but not sure of their origin. TH

hayhugh · 10-30-2015, 12:26 PM

Don, if it takes 8 hours to rework one of these boxes, how long would it take to make one from scratch (no finish applied) just plain box.

DonVoigt · 10-30-2015, 01:52 PM

Hugh,
I have not started a box from "scratch", these were already built when I got them.
Just not usable, because of being warped. Removing the warp required re-cutting the inlets to make them deep enough again.

A new box might actually take less time; as I would not paint the inlet areas, but leave them natural like the originals. These are painted because the boxes were stained a red brown, which had to be removed from the flat areas, but is near impossible to get out of the inlet areas.

The big challenge is the latch, which is unlike any US latch I have seen. The original maker made these from scratch also, from solid steel material, way too hard to duplicate. There may be something like them available in Germany, but I have not looked.

sheepherder · 04-08-2016, 09:50 PM

Don, are these commercial .22 ERMA conversion unit boxes??? They look much more refined than the pics I looked at in TBLAP...

Your thread had stuck in my mind, as my Nambu, Lahti, and even my artillery Luger long-barrel conversions just sit in a cardboard box. I currently have a slab of soft Pine on my mill and just finished inletting it for the 'artillery' Nambu barrel. Next week I'll work on adding a magazine, bolt, and cocking knob inlet. But my plan was to make it as crude as the German wartime inletted boxes.

A "Gonzo" Nambu parts box...I might even try to age it...

DonVoigt · 04-08-2016, 09:56 PM

No,
they were someones creation from scratch. Similar but not original Erma.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sheepherder

Don, are these commercial .22 ERMA conversion unit boxes??? They look much more refined than the pics I looked at in TBLAP...

Your thread had stuck in my mind, as my Nambu, Lahti, and even my artillery Luger long-barrel conversions just sit in a cardboard box. I currently have a slab of soft Pine on my mill and just finished inletting it for the 'artillery' Nambu barrel. Next week I'll work on adding a magazine, bolt, and cocking knob inlet. But my plan was to make it as crude as the German wartime inletted boxes.

A "Gonzo" Nambu parts box...I might even try to age it...

10-29-2015, 07:43 PM	#1
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,441 Thanked 4,350 Times in 2,040 Posts	Reproduction small box for Erma .22 conversion for P 08 - Ed had two of these for sale a couple weeks back. Someone had done a good job cloning the small box that was used for storage of these conversion kits. The compartments are self-explanatory, except for the lower right one in the last picture- it is for the 9mm ejector which must be removed from the luger upper to install the kit. Unfortunately the lids and bases had warped, and the boxes would not close. So after a couple days in the wood shop, re-fitting the compartments, and repairing the latch mechanism one of the boxes is in order for its intended use! I have one more to re-work and will likely pass it along to an interested luger collector. Attached Thumbnails

10-29-2015, 07:54 PM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,927 Thanks: 2,026 Thanked 4,525 Times in 2,090 Posts	looks great,I should send the THIRD one that came with this group of parts and have you work on it Did an excellent job Don. __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

10-30-2015, 09:54 AM	#4
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Don, What OD do you need? I have a few, but not sure of their origin. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

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sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,182 Thanks: 1,400 Thanked 4,442 Times in 2,330 Posts	Don, are these commercial .22 ERMA conversion unit boxes??? They look much more refined than the pics I looked at in TBLAP... Your thread had stuck in my mind, as my Nambu, Lahti, and even my artillery Luger long-barrel conversions just sit in a cardboard box. I currently have a slab of soft Pine on my mill and just finished inletting it for the 'artillery' Nambu barrel. Next week I'll work on adding a magazine, bolt, and cocking knob inlet. But my plan was to make it as crude as the German wartime inletted boxes. A "Gonzo" Nambu parts box...I might even try to age it... __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter...

10-29-2015, 08:00 PM	#3
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,441 Thanked 4,350 Times in 2,040 Posts	Thanks Ed. it takes about 8 hours of hand work to do the re-work. It would be quicker if the guy had not stained the original boxes. One can't get the stain out of the compartments, that's why they are black. Natural or "blond" is the color of the original boxes of the era; some of the long boxes may have been painted flat green. PS- If anyone has a spare knurled nut for the barrel, I could use one. The original kit came with two; mine only one. I bought one from Sarco, but it is larger in diameter, ok for using installed, but won't fit in the box!

10-30-2015, 12:26 PM	#5
hayhugh User Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Florida/Penna Posts: 892 Thanks: 856 Thanked 513 Times in 275 Posts	Don, if it takes 8 hours to rework one of these boxes, how long would it take to make one from scratch (no finish applied) just plain box.

10-30-2015, 01:52 PM	#6
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,441 Thanked 4,350 Times in 2,040 Posts	Hugh, I have not started a box from "scratch", these were already built when I got them. Just not usable, because of being warped. Removing the warp required re-cutting the inlets to make them deep enough again. A new box might actually take less time; as I would not paint the inlet areas, but leave them natural like the originals. These are painted because the boxes were stained a red brown, which had to be removed from the flat areas, but is near impossible to get out of the inlet areas. The big challenge is the latch, which is unlike any US latch I have seen. The original maker made these from scratch also, from solid steel material, way too hard to duplicate. There may be something like them available in Germany, but I have not looked.