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01-05-2003, 02:16 PM | #1 |
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Replacing Barrels?
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[img]confused.gif[/img] I am puzzled by a question that keeps running round in my mind. <img src="graemlins/burnout.gif" border="0" alt="[burnout]" /> If One Owned an "All Matching, Reblued, 1906 AE in 7.65 mm cal" and a "Repro Ideal Holster Stock", Would it still be a "C&R Legal Combo Shooter", if the 7.65 cal barrel were upgraded to 9 mm cal with a Blank SN Barrel ? [img]confused.gif[/img] ViggoG |
01-05-2003, 04:43 PM | #2 |
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Since 9mm is also a correct caliber for the 1906, replacing the barrel would have no effect on the C&R status.
According to BATF these guns are exempted under section III: "Luger, DWM Pistol, model 1900, 1902, or 1906, in 7.65 Luger or 9mm parabellum cal., having the American Eagle chamber crest, and barrel lengths of either 4" or 4-3/4, with original detachable Ideal shoulder stocks and Ideal frame grips." The only hangup might be the specification of "original" Ideal grips and stock. However, I think this too is OK. Please look in the General Information section of this forum at the topic "BATF Letter on Luger Shoulder Stocks".
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Not exactly in this topic but In the video on the History Channel there was a short clip of a German assembler in a Luger plant screwing in the barrel using a left hand twist, counterclock wise. Later in the video it shows Mike Krause and his 45 cal. Luger screwing it in with a right hand twist, clockwise. Not having attempted to remove a barrel, I am confused, which way do they screw in and out? <img src="graemlins/offtopic.gif" border="0" alt="[offtopic]" />
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Ron, Thanks, I was uncertain if there was a catch22 in there somewhere. Yes the Ideal Repro requirements are a device having the similar appearance, dimension and operation. So I feel clear on that bit. thanks again. [img]biggrin.gif[/img] Herb, In normal circumstance one can usually assume that threads are of a nature that a screw moves in when turned in a clockwise direction. Left handed threads are usually marked with a double grove on the bolt head. This no accident, as the design of the engine lathe is such that it is usually easier to machine right handed threads.That is cutting from the right to the left with the top of the shaft rotating toward the operator always results in a right handed spiral cut. Just remember "If not otherwise indicated, one can assume that the thread is of right hand nature". At rare times a film becomes flipped left to right in processing, and if such happened it would appear to reverse the direction of the thread in the section of the film that had been so flipped. Just perhaps, that may be the case. <img src="graemlins/wave.gif" border="0" alt="[byebye]" /> ViggoG |
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I think you are correct Viggo, the film got flipped.
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Thanks guys, I had speculated that they were threaded counterclock wise to overcome the inherent torque of the round being fired and perhaps eventually 'unscrewing' the barrel and causing a headspace problem. <img src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" />
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Herb, If your 7.65mm M1906 luger is of the long frame/receiver type, you may have a difficult time finding a 9mm barrel that will interchange. The threaded portion of these barrels are 1/8" longer than a standard PO8. The 1970s Mauser Parabellum barrels will work and are being reproduced in Germany, but are not importable. Tom H.
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Lugerdoc,
Can you elaborate on why a new 9mm non-military pistol barrel is non-importable? I was not aware of an import ban on commercial gun parts like barrels? [img]confused.gif[/img]
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John, All I know is that the German dealer that has these barrels, tells me that a special permit is required, even to sell these in Germany. I susposed that someone with an import license could bring some into the US, but the last military pistols that I bought for parts from Canada, they would not allow in the barrels or frames. Tom H.
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