Odd Toggle Marking

alanint · 10-27-2015, 08:09 PM

Has anybody ever seen a middle toggle link stamping of a single "S" aligned along the bore axis, rather than read from the side?
It is on a "41" chambered Mauser and seems to match the gun.
That's all I know for the moment.

Ben M. · 10-27-2015, 09:11 PM

looks like this on auction?
http://www.rockislandauction.com/vie...id/63/lid/3346

John Sabato · 10-28-2015, 09:08 AM

Doug, as the auction link proposes... I have seen such toggles many years ago, and I also think this is a Simson produced toggle that was used to "repair" the Mauser. Not likely that it left the factory that way. Probably because it was number matched to the gun, and the toggle it replaced was not. An attempt to boost the value of the gun by someone uneducated in Lugers who didn't realize the manufacturing mismatch.

alanint · 10-29-2015, 08:48 AM

Hi John,

The toggle link with the "S" on the Luger in question has the serial scrubbed off, so it is clearly a replacement and an attempt to boost the gun.

Thanks

Doug

John Sabato · 10-29-2015, 09:38 AM

Post photos if you get the chance Doug. The more evidence we make public about how boosting takes place, the better educated the Luger collecting community is... Forewarned is forearmed.

Dwight Gruber · 10-29-2015, 11:47 AM

--Dwight

sheepherder · 10-29-2015, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Dwight Gruber

--Dwight

Nice pic.

Extractor looks like it was overstamped too.

10-27-2015, 08:09 PM	#1
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	Odd Toggle Marking Has anybody ever seen a middle toggle link stamping of a single "S" aligned along the bore axis, rather than read from the side? It is on a "41" chambered Mauser and seems to match the gun. That's all I know for the moment.

10-28-2015, 09:08 AM	#3
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,154 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,306 Times in 1,097 Posts	Doug, as the auction link proposes... I have seen such toggles many years ago, and I also think this is a Simson produced toggle that was used to "repair" the Mauser. Not likely that it left the factory that way. Probably because it was number matched to the gun, and the toggle it replaced was not. An attempt to boost the value of the gun by someone uneducated in Lugers who didn't realize the manufacturing mismatch. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

10-29-2015, 09:38 AM	#5
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,154 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,306 Times in 1,097 Posts	Post photos if you get the chance Doug. The more evidence we make public about how boosting takes place, the better educated the Luger collecting community is... Forewarned is forearmed. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

10-29-2015, 11:47 AM	#6
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,901 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,316 Times in 430 Posts	--Dwight Attached Thumbnails

10-27-2015, 09:11 PM	#2
Ben M. User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Retired to Naples, FL. Posts: 488 Thanks: 90 Thanked 123 Times in 83 Posts	looks like this on auction? http://www.rockislandauction.com/vie...id/63/lid/3346

10-29-2015, 08:48 AM	#4
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	Hi John, The toggle link with the "S" on the Luger in question has the serial scrubbed off, so it is clearly a replacement and an attempt to boost the gun. Thanks Doug