Borchardt at Auction

ViggoG · 04-01-2003, 03:48 AM

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Have a look at these great pictures of the "OLD BEAUTY"
http://www.antiquegunroom.com/agr/au...l.php?id=19975

Is not that great looking????
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ViggoG

Navy · 04-01-2003, 09:59 AM

Bob Simpson has a very nice cased Borchie on the front of his latest catalogue...asking $25K for it IIRC.

Tom A.

Steve Richards · 04-01-2003, 09:58 PM

I also got an email about this. I wonder how much paperwork is involved with getting something like that from Germany to the US?

Big Norm · 04-01-2003, 11:46 PM

Even though this is a Loewe, this is a pretty high estimated price for just the gun. No holster, check piece or stock. It does come with a matching magazine. Most that I have seen don't have that. Finding an importer can be difficult.Simpson will do it. I think he charges $200.
Big Norm

Navy · 04-02-2003, 12:14 AM

Per ATF, as this is an antique, there is minimal paperwork.

Tom A.

Douglas Jr. · 04-04-2003, 05:47 PM

Hi folks,

If IÃ?Â´m not mistaken, there are TWO of these rare birds for sale at www.simpsonltd.com <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" />

They are around 17,500 - 19,000 <img border="0" alt="[ouch]" title="" src="graemlins/c.gif" /> !!

Nice to see them, anyway...

Douglas. <img border="0" alt="[king]" title="" src="graemlins/r.gif" />

Big Norm · 04-04-2003, 06:36 PM

Doug,
I was just at Simpsons site and he currently has only one DWM Borchardt now for sale for $19500.

The are two models of the Borchardt. Model one is the Loewe. Model two is the DWM Borchardt. DWM made minor changes to differenciate it from the Loewe Borchardt. The stock and cheek piece were numbered to the Loewe guns while most of the DWM guns were not numbered at all. So the cheek pieces and stocks are subject to counterfeiting. The cheek pieces have a little spring loaded button on it to hold it onto the stock. These buttons are delicate and subject to breakage. So when they broke, they were simply thrown away over time.

Since the Loewe was the original and rarer, they are more expensive. Especially if the stock, cheek piece and magazines serial number match the gun. Then we get into the case and other accessories...
Big Norm

Douglas Jr. · 04-05-2003, 08:04 PM

Hi Norm,

Thanks for tell me that! I never had read anything about it or noticed any diference between the two makers (Ludwig Loewe and DWM) <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[ouch]" title="" src="graemlins/c.gif" /> However, I can swear that they had two!

Anyway, thatÃ?Â´s why I love this forum! You are always learning something new! <img border="0" alt="[jumper]" title="" src="graemlins/jumper.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[jumper]" title="" src="graemlins/jumper.gif" />

Best wishes,

Douglas.

Big Norm · 04-06-2003, 07:35 AM

Doug,
I bought my first and only DWM Borchardt last year. Its surprising how much you study and learn before you put down big bucks for an expensive gun. I still haven't got the guts to disassemble and clean the thing.
Big Norm

04-01-2003, 03:48 AM	#1
ViggoG RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: South Side Virginia Posts: 534 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Borchardt at Auction <img border="0" alt="[jumper]" title="" src="graemlins/jumper.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[jumper]" title="" src="graemlins/jumper.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[jumper]" title="" src="graemlins/jumper.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[jumper]" title="" src="graemlins/jumper.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[jumper]" title="" src="graemlins/jumper.gif" /> Have a look at these great pictures of the "OLD BEAUTY" http://www.antiquegunroom.com/agr/au...l.php?id=19975 Is not that great looking???? <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" /> ViggoG

04-01-2003, 09:59 AM	#2
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	Bob Simpson has a very nice cased Borchie on the front of his latest catalogue...asking $25K for it IIRC. Tom A.

04-01-2003, 09:58 PM	#3
Steve Richards User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Beaverton, Oregon Posts: 487 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I also got an email about this. I wonder how much paperwork is involved with getting something like that from Germany to the US?

04-01-2003, 11:46 PM	#4
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Even though this is a Loewe, this is a pretty high estimated price for just the gun. No holster, check piece or stock. It does come with a matching magazine. Most that I have seen don't have that. Finding an importer can be difficult.Simpson will do it. I think he charges $200. Big Norm

04-02-2003, 12:14 AM	#5
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	Per ATF, as this is an antique, there is minimal paperwork. Tom A.

04-04-2003, 05:47 PM	#6
Douglas Jr. User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: South America Posts: 948 Thanks: 598 Thanked 584 Times in 254 Posts	Hi folks, If IÃ?Â´m not mistaken, there are TWO of these rare birds for sale at www.simpsonltd.com <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> They are around 17,500 - 19,000 <img border="0" alt="[ouch]" title="" src="graemlins/c.gif" /> !! Nice to see them, anyway... Douglas. <img border="0" alt="[king]" title="" src="graemlins/r.gif" />

04-04-2003, 06:36 PM	#7
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Doug, I was just at Simpsons site and he currently has only one DWM Borchardt now for sale for $19500. The are two models of the Borchardt. Model one is the Loewe. Model two is the DWM Borchardt. DWM made minor changes to differenciate it from the Loewe Borchardt. The stock and cheek piece were numbered to the Loewe guns while most of the DWM guns were not numbered at all. So the cheek pieces and stocks are subject to counterfeiting. The cheek pieces have a little spring loaded button on it to hold it onto the stock. These buttons are delicate and subject to breakage. So when they broke, they were simply thrown away over time. Since the Loewe was the original and rarer, they are more expensive. Especially if the stock, cheek piece and magazines serial number match the gun. Then we get into the case and other accessories... Big Norm

04-05-2003, 08:04 PM	#8
Douglas Jr. User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: South America Posts: 948 Thanks: 598 Thanked 584 Times in 254 Posts	Hi Norm, Thanks for tell me that! I never had read anything about it or noticed any diference between the two makers (Ludwig Loewe and DWM) <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[ouch]" title="" src="graemlins/c.gif" /> However, I can swear that they had two! Anyway, thatÃ?Â´s why I love this forum! You are always learning something new! <img border="0" alt="[jumper]" title="" src="graemlins/jumper.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[jumper]" title="" src="graemlins/jumper.gif" /> Best wishes, Douglas.

04-06-2003, 07:35 AM	#9
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Doug, I bought my first and only DWM Borchardt last year. Its surprising how much you study and learn before you put down big bucks for an expensive gun. I still haven't got the guts to disassemble and clean the thing. Big Norm