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It is interesting that the 'baby' Luger is not the same as the 'pocket' Luger. The 'pocket' Luger is the one with the short barrel and short gripframe/magazine; the 'baby' is quite different in construction, although it also has a shorter barrel & gripframe.
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The "pocket" Lugers you refer to are actually custom alterations of full size Lugers. The grip frame was cut, a section removed and a welded/silver soldered back together. A shorter barrel was installed. One such custom piece was the personal property of Georg Luger himself.
The late John Martz used that concept to create his custom "baby" Lugers. I have finally acquired one of his masterpieces and I am particularly pleased that it was fabricated from a Model 1900 American Eagle...one of my favorites.
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![]() Mike Krause made recreations of the "Baby" [in 32ACP!], as shown on Bob Adams web site (and pic below) - http://www.adamsguns.com/luger45.htm
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I agree lovely grips, wooden grips are aestetically the most beautiful; as for the rest I'm a bit of a purist, some sort of "Luger Integralist"... I wouldn't really share all this appreciation about recent custom alterations... ![]() Sergio
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That Luger is just awesome!! I can't imagine having that piece in my safe. |
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Since acquiring the Martz gun I have been inspired to finish the "baby" I started to create about 30 years ago and never got around to finishing it. I like the grips on mine too!
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I believe I mentioned I haven't gotten around to finishing it
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I agree that altering a collectible Luger is not an acceptable practice. But both the Martz gun and the one I have been working on are an accumulation of mis-matched and damaged parts that are assembled into a functioning custom gun. No history is being lost, it is just being recycled in a different format. ![]()
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Getting back to Yoda's original post, I would really like to see the requested photos. The gun is a puzzle and will not be resolved without some visual images...perhaps not even then, but without some graphic information we are without any clue.
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If this maybe assistance. Many years ago before his death I sent John a copy of this book~ He died shortly there after~ The carbine on the back cover is his! I don't mean to trespass but I feel its relevant to the discussion~~sorry~~Eric
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Eric,
What does that have to do with this topic?
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I removed the thread about the war. That was misplaced! As john Martz was being discussed I posted what I had of him~ Ron. Thank you for looking out for me~~~~~
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I have been tied up lately and have not been able to get a hold of my gunsmith. Your question is way above my gun knowledge. I will eventually get you an answer and some photos. Sorry for the delay.
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