1st Luger, info please?

buckeyeboys · 08-25-2014, 09:18 PM

Hi Folks,
Looking for info on a DWM Luger I picked up. Its from an old friends estate and trying to find outits history and of course value would be great.
Serial number under barrel and front of frame 4325, barrel has script M and frame has script C
Crown over N proof marks
matching 25 everywhere I can see
Looks to be a .30 caliber
marked made in Germany
finish only worn at side plate high spot
brow leather holster is pretty worn out with no markings except a spot that might have had a name or numbers scratched off.

thanks ahead of time for any help

Edward Tinker · 08-25-2014, 09:48 PM

mid 1920's DWM luger

having a different letter on barrel and frame makes it a shooter - but show us pictures of each (clear if you can)

$600-$750 - 9mm are much more wanted by folks

welcome to the forum

alanint · 08-25-2014, 09:49 PM

You have what is known as an Alphabet Commercial manufactured in the 1920s.
Worrisome are the mismatched letter suffixes on barrel and frame. Are you certain they are not the same letter?
The photos are not sharp enough to really assess condition, but value for a mismatch commercial is in the $600-$700 area.

buckeyeboys · 08-25-2014, 10:20 PM

Very clear M on barrel and C on front of frame.

DavidJayUden · 08-25-2014, 11:11 PM

Did they even use the suffix on both the frame AND the barrel? I was thinking not, but don't have a commercial in front of me at the moment. But it seems very odd to have the correct # but not the correct letter.
Bottom line is we really, really need to see clear photos of both numbers and the suffixes following those numbers. Try taking the photos outside during the daylight, no flash, tripod if possible.
dju

alanint · 08-25-2014, 11:11 PM

Then sadly a mismatched shooter.

MFC · 08-26-2014, 01:55 AM

Full serial #s including suffixes should be on the barrel and front of the frame on DWMs.

Douglas Jr. · 08-26-2014, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buckeyeboys

Very clear M on barrel and C on front of frame.

Very, very odd that both parts have the same serial number but different suffixes. Are you sure you are not looking at a "Crown/N" (which is a commercial proof) instead of a "M" ?
Not questioning your reading abilities, it is, as said above, just too much weird!

And welcome to the forum!

Douglas

rhuff · 08-26-2014, 04:48 PM

This is a mismatch commercial Luger. The photos are very fuzzy, but if this is a Crown N Alphabet Luger, then it shouldn't have a military type number marking on the side plate and takedown lever. I can't tell much more.

buckeyeboys · 08-27-2014, 12:21 AM

I will try to get more detailed pics from my phone downloaded to here, wish me luck!

08-25-2014, 09:18 PM	#1
buckeyeboys New User Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	1st Luger, info please? Hi Folks, Looking for info on a DWM Luger I picked up. Its from an old friends estate and trying to find outits history and of course value would be great. Serial number under barrel and front of frame 4325, barrel has script M and frame has script C Crown over N proof marks matching 25 everywhere I can see Looks to be a .30 caliber marked made in Germany finish only worn at side plate high spot brow leather holster is pretty worn out with no markings except a spot that might have had a name or numbers scratched off. thanks ahead of time for any help Attached Thumbnails

08-25-2014, 09:48 PM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,933 Thanks: 2,032 Thanked 4,530 Times in 2,092 Posts	mid 1920's DWM luger having a different letter on barrel and frame makes it a shooter - but show us pictures of each (clear if you can) $600-$750 - 9mm are much more wanted by folks welcome to the forum __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

08-26-2014, 01:55 AM	#7
MFC User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,237 Thanks: 183 Thanked 281 Times in 162 Posts	Full serial #s including suffixes should be on the barrel and front of the frame on DWMs. __________________ Mike C.

08-25-2014, 09:49 PM	#3
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	You have what is known as an Alphabet Commercial manufactured in the 1920s. Worrisome are the mismatched letter suffixes on barrel and frame. Are you certain they are not the same letter? The photos are not sharp enough to really assess condition, but value for a mismatch commercial is in the $600-$700 area.

08-25-2014, 10:20 PM	#4
buckeyeboys New User Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Very clear M on barrel and C on front of frame.

08-25-2014, 11:11 PM	#5
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Did they even use the suffix on both the frame AND the barrel? I was thinking not, but don't have a commercial in front of me at the moment. But it seems very odd to have the correct # but not the correct letter. Bottom line is we really, really need to see clear photos of both numbers and the suffixes following those numbers. Try taking the photos outside during the daylight, no flash, tripod if possible. dju

08-26-2014, 04:48 PM	#9
rhuff Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Az. Posts: 2,291 Thanks: 2,709 Thanked 972 Times in 717 Posts	This is a mismatch commercial Luger. The photos are very fuzzy, but if this is a Crown N Alphabet Luger, then it shouldn't have a military type number marking on the side plate and takedown lever. I can't tell much more.

08-27-2014, 12:21 AM	#10
buckeyeboys New User Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I will try to get more detailed pics from my phone downloaded to here, wish me luck!