Byf luger - Page 2

Use2use · 08-10-2014, 02:05 PM

More pics

Use2use · 08-10-2014, 02:06 PM

Done for now please tell me what you think

ChannelIsles · 08-10-2014, 02:16 PM

Lovely original condition.
I have it's twin #5467 p.
Is the alloy bottom mag a matching number?
Brendan

Use2use · 08-10-2014, 02:47 PM

Think so. What does that number mean?

ChannelIsles · 08-10-2014, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Use2use

Think so. What does that number mean?

Your luger would have had two extruded mags numbered to match, the 2nd with a ' + ' to denote the spare.
If you have at least one matched mag it adds notably to the value.
Here's what they should look like:
Brendan

Use2use · 08-10-2014, 03:42 PM

Bredan, i now understand.
Unfortunately, one is A 4175t - the parent somewhere on Russian front and the other appears to be aftermarket with a black plastic bottom. Cant have it all a suppose. The weapon appears i great shape.
Thanks
Glenn

ChannelIsles · 08-10-2014, 03:48 PM

Glenn,

The other fxo mag is a genuine black bottomed extruded mag issued around 1941 - it's valuable & well suited to your luger in the absence of the numbered version. Top condition too - well done.

Use2use · 08-10-2014, 03:50 PM

Brendan
Thank you!

ithacaartist · 08-11-2014, 09:49 AM

I also initially thought that these mag bodies were "extruded"--the result of their material's being pushed through a die to create a continuous tube with proper cross-section. I think it was John Sabato who corrected this info for us. His description of a forged general form--created by pushing/hammering on tubing stock (can be done either hot or cold)-- which was then machined to achieve the properly relieved areas on the exterior, is probably more accurate description of how they were manufactured. (Extruded aluminum requires way less mechanical energy invested in the process.)

So, now, I kind of wince every time I see "extruded" used to describe these fxo mags--kind of like when seeing "clip" when "magazine" is the real term intended!

mrerick · 08-11-2014, 10:12 AM

Hi, Your luger appears to be in original finish, and in excellent condition.

Both magazines are also original to the period and in excellent appearing condition.

All would be considered collectible if the numbered parts of the Luger are all matching.

The plastic based FXO milled magazine would also be considered matching to the gun, which is why they often sell at a premium over the numbered aluminum based magazines.

Congratulations!!!

John Sabato · 08-11-2014, 12:10 PM

All in All...a VERY nice gun! Congrats on your acquisition.

Use2use · 08-11-2014, 02:26 PM

Thank you!

Sergio Natali · 08-12-2014, 03:19 AM

Congratulations it looks in real mint conditions, enviable indeed!

Sergio

pappers1 · 08-12-2014, 04:18 PM

Very Nice Luger! I bought my first luger (BYF 42) about a 4 weeks ago....enjoy it.

ithacaartist · 08-13-2014, 12:00 AM

I am remiss. I forgot to say earlier that you have acquired one sweet pistol! Cheers!

Use2use · 08-13-2014, 01:00 AM

Thank you!

08-10-2014, 02:05 PM	#21
Use2use User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Huntington Beach, CA Posts: 25 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Luger More pics Attached Thumbnails

08-10-2014, 02:06 PM	#22
Use2use User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Huntington Beach, CA Posts: 25 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Ladt Done for now please tell me what you think Attached Thumbnails

08-10-2014, 03:48 PM	#27
ChannelIsles User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Jersey Channel Islands Posts: 156 Thanks: 8 Thanked 33 Times in 16 Posts	Glenn, The other fxo mag is a genuine black bottomed extruded mag issued around 1941 - it's valuable & well suited to your luger in the absence of the numbered version. Top condition too - well done. Last edited by ChannelIsles; 08-11-2014 at 03:26 PM. Reason: black added

08-11-2014, 09:49 AM	#29
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,292 Thanks: 7,059 Thanked 2,484 Times in 1,325 Posts	I also initially thought that these mag bodies were "extruded"--the result of their material's being pushed through a die to create a continuous tube with proper cross-section. I think it was John Sabato who corrected this info for us. His description of a forged general form--created by pushing/hammering on tubing stock (can be done either hot or cold)-- which was then machined to achieve the properly relieved areas on the exterior, is probably more accurate description of how they were manufactured. (Extruded aluminum requires way less mechanical energy invested in the process.) So, now, I kind of wince every time I see "extruded" used to describe these fxo mags--kind of like when seeing "clip" when "magazine" is the real term intended! __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

08-11-2014, 10:12 AM	#30
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,901 Thanks: 1,372 Thanked 3,094 Times in 1,503 Posts	Hi, Your luger appears to be in original finish, and in excellent condition. Both magazines are also original to the period and in excellent appearing condition. All would be considered collectible if the numbered parts of the Luger are all matching. The plastic based FXO milled magazine would also be considered matching to the gun, which is why they often sell at a premium over the numbered aluminum based magazines. Congratulations!!! __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

08-10-2014, 02:16 PM	#23
ChannelIsles User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Jersey Channel Islands Posts: 156 Thanks: 8 Thanked 33 Times in 16 Posts	Lovely original condition. I have it's twin #5467 p. Is the alloy bottom mag a matching number? Brendan

08-10-2014, 02:47 PM	#24
Use2use User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Huntington Beach, CA Posts: 25 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Think so. What does that number mean?

08-10-2014, 03:42 PM	#26
Use2use User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Huntington Beach, CA Posts: 25 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Bredan, i now understand. Unfortunately, one is A 4175t - the parent somewhere on Russian front and the other appears to be aftermarket with a black plastic bottom. Cant have it all a suppose. The weapon appears i great shape. Thanks Glenn

08-10-2014, 03:50 PM	#28
Use2use User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Huntington Beach, CA Posts: 25 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Brendan Thank you!

08-11-2014, 12:10 PM	#31
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,152 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	All in All...a VERY nice gun! Congrats on your acquisition. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

08-11-2014, 02:26 PM	#32
Use2use User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Huntington Beach, CA Posts: 25 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Thank you!

08-12-2014, 03:19 AM	#33
Sergio Natali User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Somewhere in Northern Italy Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 1,082 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,007 Posts	Congratulations it looks in real mint conditions, enviable indeed! Sergio __________________ "Originality can't be restored and should be at the top of any collector's priority list.

08-12-2014, 04:18 PM	#34
pappers1 User Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: PA, USA Posts: 32 Thanks: 14 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Very Nice Luger! I bought my first luger (BYF 42) about a 4 weeks ago....enjoy it.

08-13-2014, 12:00 AM	#35
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,292 Thanks: 7,059 Thanked 2,484 Times in 1,325 Posts	I am remiss. I forgot to say earlier that you have acquired one sweet pistol! Cheers! __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

08-13-2014, 01:00 AM	#36
Use2use User Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Huntington Beach, CA Posts: 25 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Thank you!