Please Help to ID this Holster and Tool thank you!

dragonsnake289 · 04-21-2014, 09:33 PM

hi , i recently picked this up and was wondering what it belonged to. the holster appears to have no stampings on it , it looks like world war one but could mistaken....what is the pencil sized compartment on the side?........the tool and holster are pictured below....any help would be great thanks guys!!

Edward Tinker · 04-21-2014, 10:34 PM

WW1 style (actually earlier than that) as that is a cleaning rod next to the magazine pouch.

Very nice holster

lugerholsterrepair · 04-21-2014, 11:28 PM

Jake, I am interested in your holster & tool if you ever decide to sell..or trade. It's a commercial. Not a Military.
Jerry

dragonsnake289 · 04-22-2014, 12:02 AM

so theres no chance of it being from ww1? who makes this holster ? it has no makers marks that i can see

lugerholsterrepair · 04-22-2014, 12:17 AM

Jake, It's of the era..likely before the war or after. You can never say never or ever but this is not made in the military fashion/spec. It's commercial. Commercials were rarely maker marked and not commonly dated so you will never know the answers you seek. They are not stamped on the holster. Military holsters WERE mostly maker marked and dated. I would guess the Germans had ideas about using those 2 things for a specific reason they required them.

alanint · 04-22-2014, 07:24 AM

Of interest as well are the pigskin back and the two compartment tool pouch, (for a takedown punch as well as the loading-stripping tool).

John Sabato · 04-22-2014, 12:04 PM

Also interesting that the belt loops are vertical, and not at the typical angle of wartime holsters.

dragonsnake289 · 04-22-2014, 10:59 PM

Thanks for te input guys

klaus 3338 · 04-24-2014, 02:51 AM

It is a typical 1910 commercial holster. Holsters of this kind were sometimes used by officers who had to buy Luger and holster. You can see these types in sale catalogs until the 1920th. One can say they are rare.
The tool is not correct. A power proof stamp on a tool does not make any sense.
Best regards
Klaus

Lugerdoc · 05-02-2014, 10:44 PM

Klaus, I agree. No reason for an Erfurt test fire proof on a tool. Nice commerical holster. TH

04-21-2014, 09:33 PM	#1
dragonsnake289 User Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 12 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 2 Posts	Please Help to ID this Holster and Tool thank you! hi , i recently picked this up and was wondering what it belonged to. the holster appears to have no stampings on it , it looks like world war one but could mistaken....what is the pencil sized compartment on the side?........the tool and holster are pictured below....any help would be great thanks guys!!

04-21-2014, 10:34 PM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,929 Thanks: 2,029 Thanked 4,527 Times in 2,090 Posts	WW1 style (actually earlier than that) as that is a cleaning rod next to the magazine pouch. Very nice holster __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

04-21-2014, 11:28 PM	#3
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,771 Thanks: 4,926 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	Jake, I am interested in your holster & tool if you ever decide to sell..or trade. It's a commercial. Not a Military. Jerry __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

04-22-2014, 12:17 AM	#5
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,771 Thanks: 4,926 Thanked 3,124 Times in 1,434 Posts	Jake, It's of the era..likely before the war or after. You can never say never or ever but this is not made in the military fashion/spec. It's commercial. Commercials were rarely maker marked and not commonly dated so you will never know the answers you seek. They are not stamped on the holster. Military holsters WERE mostly maker marked and dated. I would guess the Germans had ideas about using those 2 things for a specific reason they required them. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

04-22-2014, 12:04 PM	#7
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,154 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,306 Times in 1,097 Posts	Also interesting that the belt loops are vertical, and not at the typical angle of wartime holsters. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

04-22-2014, 12:02 AM	#4
dragonsnake289 User Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 12 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 2 Posts	so theres no chance of it being from ww1? who makes this holster ? it has no makers marks that i can see

04-22-2014, 07:24 AM	#6
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	Of interest as well are the pigskin back and the two compartment tool pouch, (for a takedown punch as well as the loading-stripping tool).

04-22-2014, 10:59 PM	#8
dragonsnake289 User Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 12 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 2 Posts	Thanks for te input guys

04-24-2014, 02:51 AM	#9
klaus 3338 User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 517 Thanks: 0 Thanked 411 Times in 160 Posts	It is a typical 1910 commercial holster. Holsters of this kind were sometimes used by officers who had to buy Luger and holster. You can see these types in sale catalogs until the 1920th. One can say they are rare. The tool is not correct. A power proof stamp on a tool does not make any sense. Best regards Klaus

05-02-2014, 10:44 PM	#10
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Klaus, I agree. No reason for an Erfurt test fire proof on a tool. Nice commerical holster. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net