Cracking RH grip... - Page 2

318is_Parabellum · 04-07-2014, 09:19 PM

'Doc,
I sent John a pm regarding his vopo R side grip early this afternoon. I received a set from Numrich today, and the RH fits even worse than the crappy made in India Sarco grips that were on my Simson

Looking at the various photos of "Vopo" lugers with the East German bullseye grips, mine don't measure up at all, and I have serious doubts that mine are authentic. For $42 shipped, I expected something that looked more like what was pictured in SteveM's post above, or at least better than what I got.

Are these grips real? I'm angry, and I feel like I've been ripped off.

ETA: Mods, sorry for the attempted thread hijack. Please move this post to its own thread. Thank you.

John Sabato · 04-08-2014, 10:48 AM

I am still looking for that right grip. I should find it tonight.

Tom, 318is_Parabellum has first dibbs, but if his grips are both reproduction, I would recommend he send them back, in which case I will contact you about the right grip.

From what I see in the photos above, it appears that the grips you received for $42.00 may not be genuine, but reproductions of the EG grips. As soon as I find my genuine grip I will be better able to tell. I should find it tonight. 318is_Parabellum, How well does the left grip fit?

318is_Parabellum · 04-08-2014, 11:02 AM

John,
Thanks again for your assistance! The left grip seems to fit pretty well, truth be told. I've done some more looking at photos of 'vopo' lugers, and I'm becoming more convinced that what I have are reproductions. The 'bullseye' just doesn't look right, nor does the color of plastic.

Is Numrich a reputable company? This is why I absolutely hate ordering stuff sight unseen, or at least based upon a low-resolution photo. Ugh. Just my luck.

ETA: Confirmed. My "vopo" grips are cheap plastic repros. I'm sending them back to Numrich. I guess I have to go the 'WTB' route, and hope. Apologies again for the thread hijack.

danielsand · 04-08-2014, 08:59 PM

I hope Zorba doesn't mind his thread beeing jacked?

Numrich? Had good and BAD experience with them over the years. Some good Mauser (Yugo M48, Spanish "La Coruna"), and some good M1/M2 Carbine parts I purchased from them. Latest purchase was a TOTAL disappointment. Wanted a set of "shooting grips" for my Erfurt, and after a LONG deliberation, decided on wood repros. From Numrich. "Laser cut". My foot!!! Laser must've been WAAAAY off!

I expected "some fitting", but.......oversize grips CAN be fitted (and I'm pretty good at that!), but UNDERSIZED are a total loss! I was so discusted, I didn't even bother to send them back. GARBAGE.

Plastic repros just look too cheap, and I would not insult my Imperial Parabellum with anything looking CHEAP. I was on the fence about faux stag for a while, but faux is just that,....faux.

Anyone knows somebody that MAKES custom wood grips to order? (like in the perfect world,......wax imprint of the frame shipped to the master wood worker, and he makes the pair to the EXACT dimensions?)

I've seen pics of some NICE repros fitted, and they had all kinds of designs, and other stuff carved into them. Where do people find those? Money is no object.

Zorba · 04-09-2014, 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danielsand

I hope Zorba doesn't mind his thread beeing jacked?

Doesn't matter to me - I got some good info, some good advice, and a pair of free grips outta the deal. Thread morphs are good, I for one am learning even more!

ithacaartist · 04-09-2014, 10:16 AM

[QUOTE=danielsand;253020
Anyone knows somebody that MAKES custom wood grips to order? [/QUOTE]

You might want to rattle the chain of Hugh Clark, who is a forum member well able to do this job.

Lugerdoc · 04-09-2014, 11:48 AM

User, If money is no object, the closest repros to the originals are the NIL grips from Germany. I stopped stocking them when the dealer cost went over $100/set. TH

antonio_liviero · 04-09-2014, 12:30 PM

Daniel,
I purchased a pair of grips from Nill Griffe and they are really well done, but they still needed a little work to be fitted in my Alphabet Commercial.
Anyway, this is the link to Nill's website.

http://www.nill-griffe.com/

Regards,
Antonio

04-07-2014, 09:19 PM	#21
318is_Parabellum User Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: West Virginia Posts: 130 Thanks: 80 Thanked 75 Times in 31 Posts	'Doc, I sent John a pm regarding his vopo R side grip early this afternoon. I received a set from Numrich today, and the RH fits even worse than the crappy made in India Sarco grips that were on my Simson Looking at the various photos of "Vopo" lugers with the East German bullseye grips, mine don't measure up at all, and I have serious doubts that mine are authentic. For $42 shipped, I expected something that looked more like what was pictured in SteveM's post above, or at least better than what I got. Are these grips real? I'm angry, and I feel like I've been ripped off. ETA: Mods, sorry for the attempted thread hijack. Please move this post to its own thread. Thank you. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by 318is_Parabellum; 04-07-2014 at 11:16 PM. Reason: This needs its own thread, I suppose.

04-08-2014, 10:48 AM	#22
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,154 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,306 Times in 1,097 Posts	I am still looking for that right grip. I should find it tonight. Tom, 318is_Parabellum has first dibbs, but if his grips are both reproduction, I would recommend he send them back, in which case I will contact you about the right grip. From what I see in the photos above, it appears that the grips you received for $42.00 may not be genuine, but reproductions of the EG grips. As soon as I find my genuine grip I will be better able to tell. I should find it tonight. 318is_Parabellum, How well does the left grip fit? __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

04-09-2014, 10:16 AM	#26
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,342 Thanks: 7,264 Thanked 2,569 Times in 1,363 Posts	[QUOTE=danielsand;253020 Anyone knows somebody that MAKES custom wood grips to order? [/QUOTE] You might want to rattle the chain of Hugh Clark, who is a forum member well able to do this job. __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

04-09-2014, 11:48 AM	#27
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	User, If money is no object, the closest repros to the originals are the NIL grips from Germany. I stopped stocking them when the dealer cost went over $100/set. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

04-08-2014, 11:02 AM	#23
318is_Parabellum User Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: West Virginia Posts: 130 Thanks: 80 Thanked 75 Times in 31 Posts	John, Thanks again for your assistance! The left grip seems to fit pretty well, truth be told. I've done some more looking at photos of 'vopo' lugers, and I'm becoming more convinced that what I have are reproductions. The 'bullseye' just doesn't look right, nor does the color of plastic. Is Numrich a reputable company? This is why I absolutely hate ordering stuff sight unseen, or at least based upon a low-resolution photo. Ugh. Just my luck. ETA: Confirmed. My "vopo" grips are cheap plastic repros. I'm sending them back to Numrich. I guess I have to go the 'WTB' route, and hope. Apologies again for the thread hijack.

04-08-2014, 08:59 PM	#24
danielsand User Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: SoCal Posts: 137 Thanks: 52 Thanked 100 Times in 43 Posts	I hope Zorba doesn't mind his thread beeing jacked? Numrich? Had good and BAD experience with them over the years. Some good Mauser (Yugo M48, Spanish "La Coruna"), and some good M1/M2 Carbine parts I purchased from them. Latest purchase was a TOTAL disappointment. Wanted a set of "shooting grips" for my Erfurt, and after a LONG deliberation, decided on wood repros. From Numrich. "Laser cut". My foot!!! Laser must've been WAAAAY off! I expected "some fitting", but.......oversize grips CAN be fitted (and I'm pretty good at that!), but UNDERSIZED are a total loss! I was so discusted, I didn't even bother to send them back. GARBAGE. Plastic repros just look too cheap, and I would not insult my Imperial Parabellum with anything looking CHEAP. I was on the fence about faux stag for a while, but faux is just that,....faux. Anyone knows somebody that MAKES custom wood grips to order? (like in the perfect world,......wax imprint of the frame shipped to the master wood worker, and he makes the pair to the EXACT dimensions?) I've seen pics of some NICE repros fitted, and they had all kinds of designs, and other stuff carved into them. Where do people find those? Money is no object.

04-09-2014, 12:30 PM	#28
antonio_liviero User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Italy Posts: 43 Thanks: 8 Thanked 12 Times in 8 Posts	Daniel, I purchased a pair of grips from Nill Griffe and they are really well done, but they still needed a little work to be fitted in my Alphabet Commercial. Anyway, this is the link to Nill's website. http://www.nill-griffe.com/ Regards, Antonio