1920 DWM Commercial Luger Rig Opinions

Maestro · 10-12-2013, 07:21 PM

Hello,
wanted your opinions on this rig
thank you in advance

Maestro · 10-12-2013, 07:24 PM

here's a few more pics

Maestro · 10-12-2013, 07:28 PM

here's some of the holster, etc

SteveM · 10-12-2013, 07:44 PM

I like it, looks like it has not been messed with. Doe the holster have a makers name or mark?

Maestro · 10-12-2013, 08:41 PM

I was told no markings.This is 99% DWM 1920 Commercial in outstanding condition. It was new-manufacture, post WWI and Not a military re-work. Serial number 731-o. Germany marked. 99% overall condition with bright strawed parts, no significant blemishes anywhere. Grips in as-new condition. Excellent commercial magazine marked Germany on base. 2nd Magazine is also excellent but no markings. Also commercial holster with takedown tool and punch tool.

jaguar88xj6 · 10-13-2013, 09:15 AM

Nice gun. I have one identical to that one, exect not marked Germany, all matching, ser. 311 o. Great shooter, as I use it often. I believe it is late 1924-1925 manufacture.

Maestro · 10-13-2013, 03:17 PM

is it common for the spare mag not to be marked? or the holster?

alanint · 10-13-2013, 06:08 PM

Commercial mags were rarely marked, other than the occasional "Germany", on the ones destined for the US market. Commercial holsters usually had a maker's mark, but as can be seen, not always, especially if they were producing for a larger house.

alvin · 10-13-2013, 06:44 PM

A really nice piece. How much is the asking price?

Ben M. · 10-13-2013, 07:48 PM

the grips seem like they may be more modern reproductions

alvin · 10-13-2013, 08:24 PM

The grip panels look good to me. Same as mine.

Maestro · 10-13-2013, 08:43 PM

$1600

alvin · 10-13-2013, 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maestro

$1600

The BB value of Excellent DWM of this variation is 1600. Not including the accessories. On book value, it's a byf 41/42 level Luger.

Maestro · 10-13-2013, 11:10 PM

Nicely done. Thanks.

What year was this pricing?

Sergio Natali · 10-14-2013, 03:03 AM

Nice like most of the "commercials", and probably a good shooter too!

alvin · 10-14-2013, 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maestro

Nicely done. Thanks.

What year was this pricing?

2009. I bought a copy from Borders before they closed the door in 2010 or 2011. No need to buy another copy in 10-15 years. The book is a system, the real value of book is not absolute price listed, it reflects value relationship among guns. The system does not change frequently. When we say a gun being rare or common, the book gives very good measure. It reflects the value of same variation at different condition level. Of course, it also gives long term demand some consideration based on history.

Green57 · 10-14-2013, 07:09 AM

Just for my knowledge, is the pin that holds the connecting pin between the front and rear toggle in supposed to be blued? I thought they were left in the white. What year was this changed? Thanks for the help.

G57

alvin · 10-14-2013, 07:18 AM

On my instance, the pin head is white.

One possibility -- the more previous owner looked at this white dot on the blue gun, the more he disliked it, so a little bit touch up. Private gun owners doing that frequently in gun's tool stage.

Maestro · 10-14-2013, 02:45 PM

I'll see if I could post a better picture once I received the rig

lugersrkewl · 10-14-2013, 06:09 PM

What is the number on the takedown lever it doesnt look like a 3?

10-12-2013, 07:21 PM	#1
Maestro User Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: "Where the streets have no names" Posts: 504 Thanks: 192 Thanked 200 Times in 136 Posts	1920 DWM Commercial Luger Rig Opinions Hello, wanted your opinions on this rig thank you in advance Attached Thumbnails Attached Images

10-12-2013, 07:24 PM	#2
Maestro User Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: "Where the streets have no names" Posts: 504 Thanks: 192 Thanked 200 Times in 136 Posts	here's a few more pics Attached Thumbnails

10-12-2013, 07:28 PM	#3
Maestro User Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: "Where the streets have no names" Posts: 504 Thanks: 192 Thanked 200 Times in 136 Posts	here's some of the holster, etc Attached Thumbnails

10-13-2013, 08:24 PM	#11
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	The grip panels look good to me. Same as mine. Attached Thumbnails

10-14-2013, 03:03 AM	#15
Sergio Natali User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Somewhere in Northern Italy Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 1,082 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,007 Posts	Nice like most of the "commercials", and probably a good shooter too! __________________ "Originality can't be restored and should be at the top of any collector's priority list.

10-12-2013, 07:44 PM	#4
SteveM User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,016 Thanks: 94 Thanked 275 Times in 137 Posts	I like it, looks like it has not been messed with. Doe the holster have a makers name or mark?

10-12-2013, 08:41 PM	#5
Maestro User Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: "Where the streets have no names" Posts: 504 Thanks: 192 Thanked 200 Times in 136 Posts	I was told no markings.This is 99% DWM 1920 Commercial in outstanding condition. It was new-manufacture, post WWI and Not a military re-work. Serial number 731-o. Germany marked. 99% overall condition with bright strawed parts, no significant blemishes anywhere. Grips in as-new condition. Excellent commercial magazine marked Germany on base. 2nd Magazine is also excellent but no markings. Also commercial holster with takedown tool and punch tool.

10-13-2013, 09:15 AM	#6
jaguar88xj6 User Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 18 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Nice gun. I have one identical to that one, exect not marked Germany, all matching, ser. 311 o. Great shooter, as I use it often. I believe it is late 1924-1925 manufacture.

10-13-2013, 03:17 PM	#7
Maestro User Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: "Where the streets have no names" Posts: 504 Thanks: 192 Thanked 200 Times in 136 Posts	is it common for the spare mag not to be marked? or the holster?

10-13-2013, 06:08 PM	#8
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	Commercial mags were rarely marked, other than the occasional "Germany", on the ones destined for the US market. Commercial holsters usually had a maker's mark, but as can be seen, not always, especially if they were producing for a larger house.

10-13-2013, 06:44 PM	#9
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	A really nice piece. How much is the asking price?

10-13-2013, 07:48 PM	#10
Ben M. User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Retired to Naples, FL. Posts: 484 Thanks: 85 Thanked 121 Times in 81 Posts	the grips seem like they may be more modern reproductions

10-13-2013, 08:43 PM	#12
Maestro User Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: "Where the streets have no names" Posts: 504 Thanks: 192 Thanked 200 Times in 136 Posts	$1600

10-13-2013, 11:10 PM	#14
Maestro User Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: "Where the streets have no names" Posts: 504 Thanks: 192 Thanked 200 Times in 136 Posts	Nicely done. Thanks. What year was this pricing?

10-14-2013, 07:09 AM	#17
Green57 User Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 32 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Just for my knowledge, is the pin that holds the connecting pin between the front and rear toggle in supposed to be blued? I thought they were left in the white. What year was this changed? Thanks for the help. G57

10-14-2013, 07:18 AM	#18
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	On my instance, the pin head is white. One possibility -- the more previous owner looked at this white dot on the blue gun, the more he disliked it, so a little bit touch up. Private gun owners doing that frequently in gun's tool stage. Attached Thumbnails

10-14-2013, 02:45 PM	#19
Maestro User Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: "Where the streets have no names" Posts: 504 Thanks: 192 Thanked 200 Times in 136 Posts	I'll see if I could post a better picture once I received the rig

10-14-2013, 06:09 PM	#20
lugersrkewl Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Ussr Posts: 425 Thanks: 198 Thanked 75 Times in 58 Posts	What is the number on the takedown lever it doesnt look like a 3?