DWM 1920's commercial (i think) - Page 2

Krisgolden2007 · 10-09-2013, 11:42 PM

Hey thank you guys!!!! Deffenatly glad I was directed over here!!! I couldn't have asked for a better place to be with questions. Paydays Friday so I'll be ordering the brass and bullets and a set if rcbs dies and lee crimp die then! Trust me I'll prolly be back with questions if any arise!

rhuff · 10-10-2013, 04:49 PM

Bill,

I am glad to hear that things are going great for you loading the 30 Luger. I purchased a Lee 3 die set for 30 Luger many years ago, and just could not get the sizer die to work for me at all. It would not size the neck down enough to let me get adequate neck tension. Also, the expander plug measured .308in. the same diameter as the Hornady bullet.....i.e., zero neck tension!! The inside of the sizer die looked like it had been finished with a rattail file. The only die from the Lee 3 die set that I could use was the seater. Obviously, a quality control issue with my die set.

I also load bottleneck pistol brass....30 Luger, 357Sig, 38-40, 44-40, but the 30 Luger has given me concern, most likely due to the dies. Now, I am confident that my rounds are safe, and not prone to setback on loading up the feed ramp.

I have other handguns(non-Luger) that I have rebarreled to 30 Luger caliber, and have to be sure that my handloads are good for them along with my Lugers.

K.Wilhelm · 10-10-2013, 10:23 PM

rhuff- do the Hornady bullets you mentioned have a cannelure? If so, I'm going to try some. The 30 Mauser SP bullets I'm using feed fine in my Commercial, but my new '70s Mauser Parabellum doesn't seem to like them as much. Bill

Krisgolden2007 · 10-10-2013, 10:31 PM

From the pics I've seen online of them they look like they do.

rhuff · 10-11-2013, 05:13 PM

Bill,

As mentioned above, I purchased #100 of the Hornady XTP(HP) .309in. bullets from Natchez Shooting just to give them a trial. They have not been available for a loooong time. I am not sure how my Lugers are going to react to a HP bullet, but I plan to give it a try.

These bullets did not come with a cannalure, but I have a cannalure tool, and added a cannalure to a few of them to try. I load all of my 30 Luger rounds as long(OAL) as possible, so I calculated the location where a cannalure should be and give me an OAL of approx. 1.165in. I have not been to the range with them just yet. These bullets are only a couple of bucks/100 more than the JSP bullets. I wish someone made a 93gr FMJRN bullet in 309in. with a cannalure for reloading like Fiocchi uses in their factory ammo. They use a roll crimp for added safety....as does Winchester/Western Super X 30 luger ammo.

10-10-2013, 10:23 PM	#23
K.Wilhelm User Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: South Central Colorado Posts: 215 Thanks: 45 Thanked 109 Times in 66 Posts	Hornady XP 30 Luger bullets rhuff- do the Hornady bullets you mentioned have a cannelure? If so, I'm going to try some. The 30 Mauser SP bullets I'm using feed fine in my Commercial, but my new '70s Mauser Parabellum doesn't seem to like them as much. *Bill* __________________ NRA Endowment Life member Proud veteran of the Naval Security Group

10-09-2013, 11:42 PM	#21
Krisgolden2007 User Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 9 Thanks: 8 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	Hey thank you guys!!!! Deffenatly glad I was directed over here!!! I couldn't have asked for a better place to be with questions. Paydays Friday so I'll be ordering the brass and bullets and a set if rcbs dies and lee crimp die then! Trust me I'll prolly be back with questions if any arise!

10-10-2013, 04:49 PM	#22
rhuff Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Az. Posts: 2,290 Thanks: 2,707 Thanked 972 Times in 717 Posts	Bill, I am glad to hear that things are going great for you loading the 30 Luger. I purchased a Lee 3 die set for 30 Luger many years ago, and just could not get the sizer die to work for me at all. It would not size the neck down enough to let me get adequate neck tension. Also, the expander plug measured .308in. the same diameter as the Hornady bullet.....i.e., zero neck tension!! The inside of the sizer die looked like it had been finished with a rattail file. The only die from the Lee 3 die set that I could use was the seater. Obviously, a quality control issue with my die set. I also load bottleneck pistol brass....30 Luger, 357Sig, 38-40, 44-40, but the 30 Luger has given me concern, most likely due to the dies. Now, I am confident that my rounds are safe, and not prone to setback on loading up the feed ramp. I have other handguns(non-Luger) that I have rebarreled to 30 Luger caliber, and have to be sure that my handloads are good for them along with my Lugers.

10-10-2013, 10:31 PM	#24
Krisgolden2007 User Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 9 Thanks: 8 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	From the pics I've seen online of them they look like they do.

10-11-2013, 05:13 PM	#25
rhuff Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Az. Posts: 2,290 Thanks: 2,707 Thanked 972 Times in 717 Posts	Bill, As mentioned above, I purchased #100 of the Hornady XTP(HP) .309in. bullets from Natchez Shooting just to give them a trial. They have not been available for a loooong time. I am not sure how my Lugers are going to react to a HP bullet, but I plan to give it a try. These bullets did not come with a cannalure, but I have a cannalure tool, and added a cannalure to a few of them to try. I load all of my 30 Luger rounds as long(OAL) as possible, so I calculated the location where a cannalure should be and give me an OAL of approx. 1.165in. I have not been to the range with them just yet. These bullets are only a couple of bucks/100 more than the JSP bullets. I wish someone made a 93gr FMJRN bullet in 309in. with a cannalure for reloading like Fiocchi uses in their factory ammo. They use a roll crimp for added safety....as does Winchester/Western Super X 30 luger ammo.