Need Help Identitfying Luger

tyler kent · 11-14-2012, 05:39 PM

I have a Luger with a six-inch barrel, and proof marks on the receiver indicating the "navy" type ( an M below a 5-sided geometric figure). The only other marks that I can see are "DWM" on the top middle, "1916" where the barrel meets the receiver, and "1916" on the left side above the take-down lever. Does anyone know what these mean? Can I assume 1916 is the year of manufacture, and that it was a navy military pistol? Thanks for any help.

Norme · 11-14-2012, 05:50 PM

Hi Tyler, Welcome to the forum! You have a very collectible 1914 model, 1916 dated Navy Luger. In addition to the marks you mention, the barrel and left side of the breech block should also be stamped with Navy crowns, and the front sight base should be stamped 1916. I maintain a data base of all known Navy Lugers and would like to add yours to the list. You can post the serial number here or send me an email if you prefer. Regards, Norm
normrab@comcast.net

mrerick · 11-14-2012, 05:59 PM

In addition to helping Norm with his tracking (which has proven essential to authenticating Lugers), please take and post clear sharp pictures of your Luger and it's markings.

Because of the value of Navy Lugers, these have been regularly faked. Norm and others that focus on these pistols may be able to help you authenticate yours.

Marc

tyler kent · 11-15-2012, 03:43 PM

Norm...

You are correct, the front sight also shows "1916" and the rear sight is adjustable from 100 to 200 (meters, I presume; but it seems strange to shoot a target at that distance with a 9mm handgun!). There are no markings on the magazine, and the serial numbers appear to match. The wood grip has an "S" and an "O" stamped into the checkering on the left side. I am unable to figure out how to upload a pic, but will try "attachment."

Norme · 11-15-2012, 04:18 PM

Hi Tyler, Yep, it's a 1916 Navy all right. However, it appears from you photo that the stock lug has been removed, I hope I'm wrong and that it's just the camera angle. Please let me know the serial number and your email address, I'll send you a link to the Navy List.
Regards, Norm

11-14-2012, 05:39 PM	#1
tyler kent New User Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Need Help Identitfying Luger I have a Luger with a six-inch barrel, and proof marks on the receiver indicating the "navy" type ( an M below a 5-sided geometric figure). The only other marks that I can see are "DWM" on the top middle, "1916" where the barrel meets the receiver, and "1916" on the left side above the take-down lever. Does anyone know what these mean? Can I assume 1916 is the year of manufacture, and that it was a navy military pistol? Thanks for any help.

11-14-2012, 05:59 PM	#3
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,909 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 3,110 Times in 1,510 Posts	In addition to helping Norm with his tracking (which has proven essential to authenticating Lugers), please take and post clear sharp pictures of your Luger and it's markings. Because of the value of Navy Lugers, these have been regularly faked. Norm and others that focus on these pistols may be able to help you authenticate yours. Marc __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

11-15-2012, 03:43 PM	#4
tyler kent New User Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Here's the Pic Norm... You are correct, the front sight also shows "1916" and the rear sight is adjustable from 100 to 200 (meters, I presume; but it seems strange to shoot a target at that distance with a 9mm handgun!). There are no markings on the magazine, and the serial numbers appear to match. The wood grip has an "S" and an "O" stamped into the checkering on the left side. I am unable to figure out how to upload a pic, but will try "attachment." Attached Thumbnails

11-14-2012, 05:50 PM	#2
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,417 Thanks: 226 Thanked 2,603 Times in 933 Posts	Hi Tyler, Welcome to the forum! You have a very collectible 1914 model, 1916 dated Navy Luger. In addition to the marks you mention, the barrel and left side of the breech block should also be stamped with Navy crowns, and the front sight base should be stamped 1916. I maintain a data base of all known Navy Lugers and would like to add yours to the list. You can post the serial number here or send me an email if you prefer. Regards, Norm normrab@comcast.net

11-15-2012, 04:18 PM	#5
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,417 Thanks: 226 Thanked 2,603 Times in 933 Posts	Hi Tyler, Yep, it's a 1916 Navy all right. However, it appears from you photo that the stock lug has been removed, I hope I'm wrong and that it's just the camera angle. Please let me know the serial number and your email address, I'll send you a link to the Navy List. Regards, Norm