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09-21-2012, 08:52 PM | #1 |
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What was our first 9mm luger
I own the 1906 French Marked Commercial, page 106 Luger At Random in 7.65mm, I have the 1908 Commercial in 9mm. Can one in between that can claim the title to be the last smaller 7.65mm?
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09-21-2012, 09:44 PM | #2 |
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Eric,
I think the so called "fat barrel" was the first 9mm. It is a 9mm with a flat main spring and dished toggles. Mike |
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09-21-2012, 09:55 PM | #3 |
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tks I think your right. I wondered if any proptotypes were made!!
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There were several, mostly with different barrel lengths. I am sure you have Charlie Kenyon's "Lugers at Random". There are a few 1902 9mm prototypes shown there to include a consecutively serial numbered pair formerly owned by an old friend and mentor, John Morgan, now deceased.
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09-22-2012, 09:55 AM | #5 |
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Thanks Ron! Luger books are necessary and also essential! Why were prototypes what purpose and made and for whom?
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n. 1. An original type, form, or instance serving as a basis or standard for later stages. 2. An original, full-scale, and usually working model of a new product or new version of an existing product. 3. An early, typical example Books do not impart information through osmosis, you must read them! Answers gained in that manner will be retained longer than those given you for the asking.
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09-22-2012, 01:56 PM | #7 |
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My Rich, you are full of awe inspiring information today. Did you get it through osmosis, or did you read it?
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Ahh Neil! Would be a sweet thing indeed if knowlege could be accessed in such an easy manner but alas, it must be attained the old fashioned way. I realize that my posting would be obvious to most but perhaps not all.
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I guess some of us are just not enlightened.
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technically he does have to read the answers
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09-22-2012, 05:42 PM | #12 |
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It's not about enlightenment, it's about using your own resources first before relying on others to expand your knowledge. "Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day, teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime"
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Thanks for that Rich.
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There are know 9mm prototypes in the 10xxxB suffix range, shown in several luger books. TH
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09-23-2012, 08:57 AM | #15 |
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When I was a law student at Villanova Law School our library had over 2000 law books. I didnt have to read them all to find an answer. I was taught instead what questions to ask? Thats 90% of learning. Its called the socratic method! IE 'Who is sueing who for what? It worked well until my stroke. Short term memory suggs my long term best! I can view it as a 'Stroke Of Luck!! I fear the alternative! Thanks to my supportative forum friends!!
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