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08-31-2012, 08:27 AM | #1 |
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Cleaning rods questions
Okay, I'm going to show my limited knowledge. I don't understand why Luger and C96 cleaning rods ends are designed as they are. Why the long threaded portion (similar to a jag?)?. Why the longitudinal slot through the threaded portion? How were they used (patch, strips of material, cordage)? I realize that this is not a very important discussion, like the Russian Luger, but you have to think about things like this--something else to clog the brain.
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08-31-2012, 10:10 AM | #2 |
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It appears to be kind of self evident. Like how ever you can so desire to use it. That way you need no tools added to the front end. You might slip some bronze wool, etc. in there and do whatever.
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Neil..The common cleaning rod material used during this period was a hemp like stuff..the name of which escapes me this morning. Like if you were to unravel a hemp rope. This was twisted around the threaded end of the rod and stuffed into the barrel. Got good scrubbing action I would guess.
I can't really say about the groove in the shaft..maybe like a blood groove in a bayonet? Let's the oil flow or? You will see this hemp stuff from time to time in German cleaning kits. I have seen it on occasion twisted around a cleaning rod shaft and stuffed into an Artillery holster sleeve. As you can see I don't know all that much about it either..maybe Gerben knows more?
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Thanks Jerry. Is the word sisal (sp). I guess it wasn't so self-evident--at least to me.
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cleaning stuff
I believe it was called "tow." You can still get it from Dixie Gun Works.
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Neil..Yes..I believe your right! I think Gerben mentioned before it is still used in Europe? I could be wrong there but that's what I remember.
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Neil, this cleaning rod came out of a 1915 Artillery holster that I bought several years ago. It was very difficult to pull it out of the cleaning rod sleeve because of the material on the end of it.
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This method of patching is from the black powder era. It represents an example of 5,000 years of tradition unhampered by progress. How DWM and/or the German Army could have matched-up a spaceaged design Luger with this antique patching method is beyond my ability to understand, as a simple loop will do just wonders. How long did they keep this design, until 1945? Ha!! Sieger |
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09-03-2012, 07:12 PM | #9 |
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Thanks for the help everybody. I believe that that clears it up for me.
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Actually it is a very clever design for cleaning rod. It is still the one I prefer over the others.
This design allows you to use number of different materials for cleaning wiping or oiling. By cutting that channel they created number of individual serrations that would bite into material no matter which way you twisting and turning the rod. |
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