Unknown mrkings

captcraig · 05-22-2012, 05:09 PM

Does any one reconize these markings on my Luger grips. I have attached a picture.

Ron Smith · 05-22-2012, 06:07 PM

Knowing what kind of Luger they are on would be a help.

Commercial?
Military?
Imperial?
Is it dated?
What kind of proof marks does it have?
Which caliber ?

Ron

captcraig · 05-22-2012, 06:25 PM

No date or proof marks.

Ron Smith · 05-22-2012, 07:39 PM

It could be a private purchase Werkschutz ( Private Factory Security) Luger. The medallion and plate appear to have been added long ago. Is it in .30 Luger caliber?

If you can determine what the letters stand for, it would pretty well identify whether it is or not. I have a strong feeling that it is, from the small plate below the medallion. It looks like a property or inventory code and number.

Ron

alanint · 05-22-2012, 08:18 PM

Would you read that logo as "T, G, A"?

Sammler · 05-22-2012, 11:03 PM

I suspect the marking is JGA for J. G. Anschutz of Zella-Mehlis, Thuringen. It has the look of a 1930`s marking found on some guns from that firm. Years ago, I had a cute little single shot .22 with that same style JGA mark on the receiver ring.

Ron Smith · 05-23-2012, 12:52 AM

I thought I had seen it before. I recall seeing an Anschutz .22 made pre-war that had something very similar on the top of the chamber. I think you're right.

Ron Smith · 05-23-2012, 12:56 AM

Found it...On the chamber of a WWII training rifle.

Bryan, The Luger is in my opinion, an Anschutz Factory Security Guard's pistol.

Ron

Ron Wood · 05-23-2012, 02:05 AM

That is one cool gun, and I for one would like to see a bunch more photos. It may be in a class with Ron Smith's fabulous Fiesler security guard Luger.

Nice sleuthing Ron. Glad your storehouse of knowledge can still dredge up these details! A tip of the hat to Matthew also for identifying it as an Anschutz marking. Good job guys!

05-22-2012, 05:09 PM	#1
captcraig User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 27 Thanks: 5 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Unknown mrkings Does any one reconize these markings on my Luger grips. I have attached a picture. Attached Thumbnails

05-22-2012, 06:07 PM	#2
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Knowing what kind of Luger they are on would be a help. Commercial? Military? Imperial? Is it dated? What kind of proof marks does it have? Which caliber ? Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

05-22-2012, 07:39 PM	#4
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	It could be a private purchase Werkschutz ( Private Factory Security) Luger. The medallion and plate appear to have been added long ago. Is it in .30 Luger caliber? If you can determine what the letters stand for, it would pretty well identify whether it is or not. I have a strong feeling that it is, from the small plate below the medallion. It looks like a property or inventory code and number. Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

05-22-2012, 11:03 PM	#6
Sammler User Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 31 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Jga I suspect the marking is JGA for J. G. Anschutz of Zella-Mehlis, Thuringen. It has the look of a 1930`s marking found on some guns from that firm. Years ago, I had a cute little single shot .22 with that same style JGA mark on the receiver ring.

05-23-2012, 12:52 AM	#7
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	I thought I had seen it before. I recall seeing an Anschutz .22 made pre-war that had something very similar on the top of the chamber. I think you're right. __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

05-22-2012, 06:25 PM	#3
captcraig User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 27 Thanks: 5 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	No date or proof marks.

05-22-2012, 08:18 PM	#5
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	Would you read that logo as "T, G, A"?

05-23-2012, 12:56 AM	#8
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Found it...On the chamber of a WWII training rifle. Bryan, The Luger is in my opinion, an Anschutz Factory Security Guard's pistol. Ron Attached Thumbnails __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

05-23-2012, 02:05 AM	#9
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,019 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,173 Times in 1,701 Posts	That is one cool gun, and I for one would like to see a bunch more photos. It may be in a class with Ron Smith's fabulous Fiesler security guard Luger. Nice sleuthing Ron. Glad your storehouse of knowledge can still dredge up these details! A tip of the hat to Matthew also for identifying it as an Anschutz marking. Good job guys! __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction