Grip screw stamp

tx_oil · 04-24-2012, 10:04 AM

As i was taking off the grips to my new Luger, one of the grip screws broke. Ok, it's a shooter, and I'm putting replacement grips on it anyway to preserve the originals, but I noticed that the screws have a stamp on them. I cannot get my camera to zoom in for a legible photo but the stamp is an eagle with drooping wings above what looks like a numeral 6 or perhaps a letter "G".
My question is: 1.) does the stamp designate manufacturer, and Is it possible to find another with the same stamping?
I have installed brass grip screws for the new grips but would like to try to find a similarly stamped twin to the remaining original. Thanks in advance!

John Sabato · 04-24-2012, 10:14 AM

If the grip screws have a stamp on them, they are of Erfurt arsenal manufacture... You can probably get a similar screw from several sources (try Lugerdoc here on the forum). But since your pistol is not all matching, and not likely all Erfurt, any grip screw with an appropriate finish would be just fine for your Luger...

drbuster · 04-24-2012, 10:15 AM

Probably E/6 stamped grip screws, from Simson & Co., Suhl.

mrerick · 04-24-2012, 10:41 AM

Robert, if you have an E/6 marked Simson grip screw, they are extremely rare. It recently took me over 2 years to locate a replacement for my Simson. Ed was the person that graciously shared one of the very few he has with me.

Ed Tinker is a specialist in Simson Lugers, and I am sure he would gladly supply you with replacement matched screws with the proper Whitworth thread profile for your Luger.

The threads on Luger grip screws are unique, so don't attempt to replace them with anything SAE or Metric.

Please contact me directly or contact Ed on this board if we can be of help.

Marc

Edward Tinker · 04-24-2012, 10:44 AM

if it is a simson screw and not a simsonluger, then I would trade you some parts for the simson screw

as a 'mismatched' part can look funny

email me for sending me pictures and I can tell you exactly what it is

ed_tinker@hotmail.com

Ed

tx_oil · 04-24-2012, 11:03 AM

It is definitely an eagle over a 6, or a "G" it is so tiny that it is difficult to determine. The pistol IS numbers matching and does have Simson rework stamps and Waffenamt stamp but nowhere can I locate any sort of manufacturer ID on the frame. So, am I to assume that the remaining grip screw is a Simson stamp?? It stands to reason that if the pistol was reworked @Simson, and received a magazine safety, then perhaps it received new grip screws at the same time?

Edward Tinker · 04-24-2012, 12:26 PM

Post pictures or get direct with me and i can help.....

cirelaw · 04-24-2012, 05:59 PM

Non Mistaken!

tx_oil · 04-24-2012, 06:05 PM

This is the best resolution I can wring from my camera.

Edward Tinker · 04-24-2012, 06:30 PM

Eagle 6 / simson screw

To tell you if it is correct I would have to know about the rest of the gun. It might have a eagle 33 or eagle 6 barrel and that would just mean it is a barrel.

An entire rework is not common, but I own one in my collection that started as an early DWM.

Ed

Edward Tinker · 04-24-2012, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tx_oil

....? It stands to reason that if the pistol was reworked @Simson, and received a magazine safety, then perhaps it received new grip screws at the same time?

no

tx_oil · 04-24-2012, 06:46 PM

OK.. thank you for the identification! Now, any idea where I might find a matching screw since one of mine has broken?

Edward Tinker · 04-26-2012, 10:23 AM

eagle 6 screws are very hard to come by, I would not sell one for less than $100 for one

sheepherder · 04-26-2012, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tx_oil

This is the best resolution I can wring from my camera.

That's just fine...I think the next best would be from an electron microscope...

04-24-2012, 10:04 AM	#1
tx_oil User Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 61 Thanks: 8 Thanked 18 Times in 13 Posts	Grip screw stamp As i was taking off the grips to my new Luger, one of the grip screws broke. Ok, it's a shooter, and I'm putting replacement grips on it anyway to preserve the originals, but I noticed that the screws have a stamp on them. I cannot get my camera to zoom in for a legible photo but the stamp is an eagle with drooping wings above what looks like a numeral 6 or perhaps a letter "G". My question is: 1.) does the stamp designate manufacturer, and Is it possible to find another with the same stamping? I have installed brass grip screws for the new grips but would like to try to find a similarly stamped twin to the remaining original. Thanks in advance! __________________ Invest in precious metals: Lead, Brass and Primers

04-24-2012, 10:14 AM	#2
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,153 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	If the grip screws have a stamp on them, they are of Erfurt arsenal manufacture... You can probably get a similar screw from several sources (try Lugerdoc here on the forum). But since your pistol is not all matching, and not likely all Erfurt, any grip screw with an appropriate finish would be just fine for your Luger... __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

04-24-2012, 10:41 AM	#4
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,907 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 3,108 Times in 1,509 Posts	Robert, if you have an E/6 marked Simson grip screw, they are extremely rare. It recently took me over 2 years to locate a replacement for my Simson. Ed was the person that graciously shared one of the very few he has with me. Ed Tinker is a specialist in Simson Lugers, and I am sure he would gladly supply you with replacement matched screws with the proper Whitworth thread profile for your Luger. The threads on Luger grip screws are unique, so don't attempt to replace them with anything SAE or Metric. Please contact me directly or contact Ed on this board if we can be of help. Marc __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

04-24-2012, 10:44 AM	#5
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,926 Thanks: 2,021 Thanked 4,523 Times in 2,089 Posts	if it is a simson screw and not a simsonluger, then I would trade you some parts for the simson screw as a 'mismatched' part can look funny email me for sending me pictures and I can tell you exactly what it is ed_tinker@hotmail.com Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

04-24-2012, 11:03 AM	#6
tx_oil User Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 61 Thanks: 8 Thanked 18 Times in 13 Posts	It is definitely an eagle over a 6, or a "G" it is so tiny that it is difficult to determine. The pistol IS numbers matching and does have Simson rework stamps and Waffenamt stamp but nowhere can I locate any sort of manufacturer ID on the frame. So, am I to assume that the remaining grip screw is a Simson stamp?? It stands to reason that if the pistol was reworked @Simson, and received a magazine safety, then perhaps it received new grip screws at the same time? __________________ Invest in precious metals: Lead, Brass and Primers

04-24-2012, 10:15 AM	#3
drbuster User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Mateo, California Posts: 1,432 Thanks: 2 Thanked 71 Times in 56 Posts	Probably E/6 stamped grip screws, from Simson & Co., Suhl.

04-24-2012, 12:26 PM	#7
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,926 Thanks: 2,021 Thanked 4,523 Times in 2,089 Posts	Post pictures or get direct with me and i can help.....

04-24-2012, 05:59 PM	#8
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	An erfurt screw is this Non Mistaken! Attached Thumbnails

04-24-2012, 06:05 PM	#9
tx_oil User Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 61 Thanks: 8 Thanked 18 Times in 13 Posts	This is the best resolution I can wring from my camera. __________________ Invest in precious metals: Lead, Brass and Primers

04-24-2012, 06:30 PM	#10
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,926 Thanks: 2,021 Thanked 4,523 Times in 2,089 Posts	Eagle 6 / simson screw To tell you if it is correct I would have to know about the rest of the gun. It might have a eagle 33 or eagle 6 barrel and that would just mean it is a barrel. An entire rework is not common, but I own one in my collection that started as an early DWM. Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

04-24-2012, 06:46 PM	#12
tx_oil User Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 61 Thanks: 8 Thanked 18 Times in 13 Posts	OK.. thank you for the identification! Now, any idea where I might find a matching screw since one of mine has broken? __________________ Invest in precious metals: Lead, Brass and Primers

04-26-2012, 10:23 AM	#13
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,926 Thanks: 2,021 Thanked 4,523 Times in 2,089 Posts	eagle 6 screws are very hard to come by, I would not sell one for less than $100 for one