New Luger owner

raymond2688 · 12-11-2011, 08:29 AM

I just acuired this luger not all the numbers match. any info and value would be much appreciated.

raymond2688 · 12-11-2011, 08:30 AM

more photos

LugerVern · 12-11-2011, 08:58 AM

Hello Raymond

Your gun has mixed parts, so collector value is way down. It has been refinished. Did you get a good deal on it? Most would call this a shooter.

Hope this is mostly what you already knew

Vern

raymond2688 · 12-11-2011, 09:31 AM

i figured it was a shooter i wasnt sure about the reblued because the edges are sharp. i was curious about the marks on the side of the top slide.

raymond2688 · 12-11-2011, 09:55 AM

most interested in markings from pic 3 4 5

raymond2688 · 12-11-2011, 10:03 AM

i just took the gun all apart and it appears all numbers match the lower receiver part of the gun with the eception of the barrel and part attached to the barrel

Norme · 12-11-2011, 10:06 AM

Hi Raymond, As Vern mentioned, your gun is made up from parts of two different guns (at least). The eagle on the breech block, in photo #3 is an Imperial (pre 1918) firing proof. The Eagle/655's are Mauser inspection marks used between 1939 and 1941. Regards, Norm

raymond2688 · 12-11-2011, 10:11 AM

what value would this gun have

mrerick · 12-11-2011, 12:28 PM

Hi Raymond,

A properly functioning refinished mis-matched "shooter" grade Luger would be priced between $500 and $1000, with many like this in the $600 range.

The serial number which is normally recorded for a Luger is the one found on the front of the frame above the trigger guard. There may be a script letter under the "5929" shown. If so, it's part of the serial number, and a suffix. "5929x"

The typeface of the number stamped here doesn't look like the dies used by DWM, but it may be original and just look different due to heavy buffing.

How does it shoot? Have you had it out to the range?

Marc

raymond2688 · 12-11-2011, 02:06 PM

there is no leter suffex under the serial number any way to get the proper year from the main serial number. as mentioned only the barrel and barrel extention ???? are different from the main serial number.

raymond2688 · 12-11-2011, 02:07 PM

oh i have not shot it yet i have no ammo for it yet.

mrerick · 12-11-2011, 02:44 PM

Unfortunately, every 10,000 pistols, the 4 digit numbers were repeated. The numbers went from 1 to 10,000.

There were various periods when the entire numbering sequences repeated depending upon whether the Luger was a commercial or a military firearm. Since the receiver (dated in 1939) and the frame and the barrel are all from different guns, in different eras, I'm not sure of a good way to date the frame except to look inside and try and find similarities to the manufacturing work marks with those of another period pistol.

Marc

raymond2688 · 12-11-2011, 03:47 PM

thanks for all the info. i got a great deal on it so i will just hold on to it since it is my first one.

John Sabato · 12-12-2011, 11:58 AM

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i wasnt sure about the reblued because the edges are sharp.

Raymond, welcome to the Lugerforum...

Much good and accurate advice to you above, but I would have to say that even your photos show that this gun has been heavily buffed. Many surfaces that should be flat or linear are now curved and unsymmetrical... and many edges are not sharp that should be if it were never reblued.

You have a fine looking shooter... not a collectible. Even though it is a real piece of history, you can enjoy shooting it! They are a literally a "blast" on the range... it's accuracy may surprise you even if the bore should not be in real good shape!

zombeer · 12-26-2011, 11:58 PM

I'm going to pick up my first luger this week from my local dealer. It looks to be in similar condition to yours, a definite shooter, but that's what I wanted. Paid $650 for it.

Have you heard any recommendations for ammo yet? I'm brand new to the forum and haven't looked around much. I've heard Winchester 115 gr is pretty reliable.

Good luck with your new gun and enjoy!

12-11-2011, 08:29 AM	#1
raymond2688 User Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 21 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	New Luger owner I just acuired this luger not all the numbers match. any info and value would be much appreciated. Attached Thumbnails

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12-11-2011, 12:28 PM	#9
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,909 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 3,110 Times in 1,510 Posts	Hi Raymond, A properly functioning refinished mis-matched "shooter" grade Luger would be priced between $500 and $1000, with many like this in the $600 range. The serial number which is normally recorded for a Luger is the one found on the front of the frame above the trigger guard. There may be a script letter under the "5929" shown. If so, it's part of the serial number, and a suffix. "5929x" The typeface of the number stamped here doesn't look like the dies used by DWM, but it may be original and just look different due to heavy buffing. How does it shoot? Have you had it out to the range? Marc __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

12-11-2011, 02:44 PM	#12
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,909 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 3,110 Times in 1,510 Posts	Unfortunately, every 10,000 pistols, the 4 digit numbers were repeated. The numbers went from 1 to 10,000. There were various periods when the entire numbering sequences repeated depending upon whether the Luger was a commercial or a military firearm. Since the receiver (dated in 1939) and the frame and the barrel are all from different guns, in different eras, I'm not sure of a good way to date the frame except to look inside and try and find similarities to the manufacturing work marks with those of another period pistol. Marc __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

12-26-2011, 11:58 PM	#15
zombeer User Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 36 Thanks: 16 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	I'm going to pick up my first luger this week from my local dealer. It looks to be in similar condition to yours, a definite shooter, but that's what I wanted. Paid $650 for it. Have you heard any recommendations for ammo yet? I'm brand new to the forum and haven't looked around much. I've heard Winchester 115 gr is pretty reliable. Good luck with your new gun and enjoy! __________________ Illegitimis nil carborundum

12-11-2011, 08:58 AM	#3
LugerVern User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Virginia Posts: 563 Thanks: 1 Thanked 34 Times in 27 Posts	Hello Raymond Your gun has mixed parts, so collector value is way down. It has been refinished. Did you get a good deal on it? Most would call this a shooter. Hope this is mostly what you already knew Vern

12-11-2011, 09:31 AM	#4
raymond2688 User Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 21 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	i figured it was a shooter i wasnt sure about the reblued because the edges are sharp. i was curious about the marks on the side of the top slide.

12-11-2011, 09:55 AM	#5
raymond2688 User Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 21 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	most interested in markings from pic 3 4 5

12-11-2011, 10:03 AM	#6
raymond2688 User Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 21 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	i just took the gun all apart and it appears all numbers match the lower receiver part of the gun with the eception of the barrel and part attached to the barrel

12-11-2011, 10:06 AM	#7
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,417 Thanks: 226 Thanked 2,603 Times in 933 Posts	Hi Raymond, As Vern mentioned, your gun is made up from parts of two different guns (at least). The eagle on the breech block, in photo #3 is an Imperial (pre 1918) firing proof. The Eagle/655's are Mauser inspection marks used between 1939 and 1941. Regards, Norm

12-11-2011, 10:11 AM	#8
raymond2688 User Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 21 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	what value would this gun have

12-11-2011, 02:06 PM	#10
raymond2688 User Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 21 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	there is no leter suffex under the serial number any way to get the proper year from the main serial number. as mentioned only the barrel and barrel extention ???? are different from the main serial number.

12-11-2011, 02:07 PM	#11
raymond2688 User Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 21 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	oh i have not shot it yet i have no ammo for it yet.

12-11-2011, 03:47 PM	#13
raymond2688 User Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 21 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	thanks for all the info. i got a great deal on it so i will just hold on to it since it is my first one.