Another grip safety question

[ithacaartist]

Shortly after I receive a care package from Lugerdoc, I will have replaced three grip safety springs, one in each of three of my Lugers-- 2 '06 AE and a 29/70 Mauser.

I've noticed that the recoil spring rides pretty close to the grip safety spring, and in one case is actually touching it. In this case, the reciol spring seems a little more serpentine than the others, not maintaining a very straight course along its length, and, as mentioned, the recoil spring actually is in contact with the grip safety spring.

With the mechanical arrangement as described, what is the likelihood that interference from the recoil spring will cause the grip safety spring to break off, as was the found in two of the pistols? (The third had a rather deficient homemade spring in place, which I think was a replacement for yet another broken one.)

Thinking it through, the grip spring would be flexed into the corner of the passage behind the mag in the frame, in which the recoil spring moves, perhaps rendering the springs nowhere near each other when the pistol is fired, but if this is indeed an issue that demands attention, what should be done to keep the springs from interacting?

Thanks,

David Parker

[Ron Wood]

David,
Don't think you need to do anything about the coil spring. The grip safety spring is pretty short to begin with and needs to be strong (read "stiff!!!") and is farly prone to breakage. I have had to replace the grip safety spring on a couple of early model Lugers that had the leaf main spring, so it isn't a problem caused by the coil spring of the new models.

[ithacaartist]

Thanks Ron,
The realization that the spring for the grips would hide in the corner while the mainspring is doing its thing has sunk in. Thanks for the reassurance.
Just tried the results of a spring installation in what I'm calling my shooter--06AE .30, matching except mag and military style barrel,with different #. Used a MecGar and an fxo, each one twice,
and no issues--except prehaps my shooting abilities...

[Lugerdoc]

David, I'd recommend grinding a bit off of the side touching the recoil spring. No sense risking another broken grip safety spring. TH

[ithacaartist]

Tom, I'll consider that. When I reassembled the mainspring assembly, I took care to take advantage of the squiggle that is in the spring, positioning it so that it swoops away from the grip safety spring. Night before last, I shot those 4 mags (one MecGar, one fxo, each filled twice) with no issues and finished with an extra 6 rapid fire, again no problem. So far, so good. I'm gratified at this, at least. 30% brass loss in the grass; I'd better do something about that. Anyway, I'll take the grips off soon and see if the spring's orientation has changed after shooting this number of rounds. If it remained where I put it, that will be good, and I will forgo any grinding for now.

A technique I've used to see if things are, indeed, scrubbing is to coat one of the suspect parts with magic marker and see what is disturbed after operating a bit. Excess comes off with alcohol when you're done.

[GIFFROY]

Is it possible to buy somewhere a grip safety spring for à 1929 Swiss Luger (.30 luger)?
Thank you

[Lugerdoc]

Griff, I do have new original M29 Swiss grip safety springs (same as the Mauser Parabellum) in stock @$35 each + $6 S&H. TH

[Edward Tinker]

Originally Posted by giffroy

is it possible to buy somewhere a grip safety spring for à 1929 swiss luger (.30 luger)?
Thank you

please do not post the same question in numerous postings

[GIFFROY]

OK ... Sorry