This is getting crazy....

ChrisG43 · 10-31-2011, 07:58 PM

I posted a G date a couple weeks ago that I had purchased, locally, now I picked up it's brother, out of the same estate, cheaper price though, and a matching mag....can someone throw me some info on the holster? thanks, Chris...

ChrisG43 · 10-31-2011, 07:59 PM

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FNorm · 10-31-2011, 08:40 PM

It kindda resembles a 1930's Swiss commercial. Is there a pull up strap and/or a tool pouch?

The holster guys will be along, and they'll know.

FN

mrerick · 10-31-2011, 08:43 PM

Even though someone has stamped "158" into the magazine base, I don't believe it's a period correct magazine for a "G" date.

It also looks like a serial number was partially removed from it.

Something odd has apparently happened with the front left side of the frame at the rails that the receiver rides in. In the sixth picture down (that shows the frame s/n) it looks like the frame has been ground down at an angle. The rail fit also seems to have more gap than normal.

Marc

alanint · 10-31-2011, 08:45 PM

Nice pistol but the magazine is a force matched WW1 model. The numbers on the front of the frame and on the toggle also look suspect. The "5" on the toggle looks like a converted "3" and the front of the frame appears like it was welded up and restamped with mismatched fonts.

I can't comment on the holster.

Lugerdoc · 11-01-2011, 09:18 AM

Your holster appears to be a variation of the WW2 Bulgarian style. I'd be surprised if the grips are original to your G date, as the fine checkering on these ended in 1914 with the introduction of the stock lug frame. TH

wlyon · 11-01-2011, 09:41 AM

I agree with Tom, holster is Bulgarian. Luger appears to have had quite a bit of messing with. Bill

ChrisG43 · 11-06-2011, 01:08 AM

Here's some better pics....I haven't been around a lot of "boosted Lugers" in my travels, so this looked good to me. Obviously the mag being renumbered sticks out like a sore thumb. I posted some more detailed photos, the fonts looked the same to me, so I guess I'm missing something obvious, the front looked like it had just seen some rough travels somewhere, here's some better photos, and I'm open to learning.... Chris.

Worst case, I'm only into maybe 100$ than a shooter mismatch...

alanint · 11-06-2011, 06:55 AM

The numbers are all looking better, but the front of the frame still appears like it was held in a vice too tighly or something. I don't think it was battered, perhaps just squeezed?

DavidJayUden · 11-06-2011, 08:09 AM

Not as bad as I first thought, but it has been gunsmithed by a monkey. They have dressed the front sides of the frame and trigger guard with a file, probably a round one. Maybe careless handling/shooting buggered up the front edges of the gun?
I'm wondering, per the last photo, if the rear toggle had been buffed and reblued, and also the toggle pin appears to be blued over. In the flesh does the rear toggle match the finish on the rest of the gun?
Anyway, it is what it is, and I which it could talk because it could probably tell some stories.
dju

10-31-2011, 07:58 PM	#1
ChrisG43 User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Alaska Posts: 60 Thanks: 2 Thanked 14 Times in 1 Post	This is getting crazy.... I posted a G date a couple weeks ago that I had purchased, locally, now I picked up it's brother, out of the same estate, cheaper price though, and a matching mag....can someone throw me some info on the holster? thanks, Chris... Attached Thumbnails

10-31-2011, 07:59 PM	#2
ChrisG43 User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Alaska Posts: 60 Thanks: 2 Thanked 14 Times in 1 Post	G date more piccs Attached Thumbnails

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mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,900 Thanks: 1,372 Thanked 3,094 Times in 1,503 Posts	Even though someone has stamped "158" into the magazine base, I don't believe it's a period correct magazine for a "G" date. It also looks like a serial number was partially removed from it. Something odd has apparently happened with the front left side of the frame at the rails that the receiver rides in. In the sixth picture down (that shows the frame s/n) it looks like the frame has been ground down at an angle. The rail fit also seems to have more gap than normal. Marc __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

11-01-2011, 09:18 AM	#6
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Your holster appears to be a variation of the WW2 Bulgarian style. I'd be surprised if the grips are original to your G date, as the fine checkering on these ended in 1914 with the introduction of the stock lug frame. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

11-01-2011, 09:41 AM	#7
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,619 Thanks: 3,144 Thanked 2,530 Times in 943 Posts	I agree with Tom, holster is Bulgarian. Luger appears to have had quite a bit of messing with. Bill __________________ Bill Lyon

10-31-2011, 08:40 PM	#3
FNorm Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 978 Thanks: 68 Thanked 127 Times in 108 Posts	It kindda resembles a 1930's Swiss commercial. Is there a pull up strap and/or a tool pouch? The holster guys will be along, and they'll know. FN

10-31-2011, 08:45 PM	#5
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	Nice pistol but the magazine is a force matched WW1 model. The numbers on the front of the frame and on the toggle also look suspect. The "5" on the toggle looks like a converted "3" and the front of the frame appears like it was welded up and restamped with mismatched fonts. I can't comment on the holster.

11-06-2011, 01:08 AM	#8
ChrisG43 User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Alaska Posts: 60 Thanks: 2 Thanked 14 Times in 1 Post	G date Here's some better pics....I haven't been around a lot of "boosted Lugers" in my travels, so this looked good to me. Obviously the mag being renumbered sticks out like a sore thumb. I posted some more detailed photos, the fonts looked the same to me, so I guess I'm missing something obvious, the front looked like it had just seen some rough travels somewhere, here's some better photos, and I'm open to learning.... Chris. Worst case, I'm only into maybe 100$ than a shooter mismatch... Attached Thumbnails

11-06-2011, 06:55 AM	#9
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	The numbers are all looking better, but the front of the frame still appears like it was held in a vice too tighly or something. I don't think it was battered, perhaps just squeezed?

11-06-2011, 08:09 AM	#10
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Not as bad as I first thought, but it has been gunsmithed by a monkey. They have dressed the front sides of the frame and trigger guard with a file, probably a round one. Maybe careless handling/shooting buggered up the front edges of the gun? I'm wondering, per the last photo, if the rear toggle had been buffed and reblued, and also the toggle pin appears to be blued over. In the flesh does the rear toggle match the finish on the rest of the gun? Anyway, it is what it is, and I which it could talk because it could probably tell some stories. dju