As Issued

[sonofab-17pilot]

What comprised a complete set when issued a Luger.
Were there differences between Officers and Police..,etc

Doug

[Edward Tinker]

yes and no

first are you discussing, WW1, Weimar or WW2? and then as manufacturer; DWM, Erfurt, DWM, Simson, Krieghoff or Mauser?

But actually, little difference in what was sent, but then consider officer and police? As many enlisted were issued lugers likely as officers and police were issued sometimes an extra magazine.

Short story;
As sent by the factory, it was issued with 2 magazines and the luger, the tool I believe was issued generally later, the holster for sure was acquired separately.

Later in production, the police got the luger and acquired the magazines separately from Haenel, then holsters were acquired by them separately. Tools, again, I am not sure if aquired with gun or later.


Ed

[DavidJayUden]

So how were they packaged from the factory? Individual boxes or by the crate? And did any original shipping materials survive?
dju

[sonofab-17pilot]

Was there a cleaning kit issued ?

[Edward Tinker]

No and yes

Everything depends on how and what time period you are speaking of, and whether it was individual or unit

So, if memory serves me correct, one cleaning rod per 10 weapons, then in WW2 the rifle / pistol kit was used for both.


Ed

[klaus 3338]

We have in German archives all the documents to answer your questions.
During the Imperial time must the officers buy their own weapons! They could buy all side arms. Important was that the holster should look like the Luger holsters. Officers were offered to buy the P08 for a special prize from the Gewehrfabrik (gun factory) Erfurt. Thousands of DWM Lugers with the 5 digit serial number were issued to the officers during the Great War and the Years before the war.

Issued for the other Army "users" were the P08 with two magazines and the tool. These items were sent to the Artillery Depots. The holsters for the Luger were bought by the Bekleidungsämter (clothing depots) of the different Army Corps.

One cleaning rod came from the DWM for 6 Lugers and was sent to the Artillery Depots.

Each regiment got their portion of Lugers with the magazines, the tool and the cleaning rod from the Artillery Depots and the holsters came from the Bekleidungs Ämter. It seems that this changed late in the war.

There were no Lugers issued to the Police during the Imperial time.

My English is terrible but I hope I could help to answer your question.

Best regards from Germany
Klaus

[Edward Tinker]

thank you Klaus, better than my answers!


Ed

[Vlim]

As of 1934 the standard cleaning kit for both P08 and K98 was the 'Reinigungsgerät 34' or RG34 for short. The well known tin box with 2 lids (one compartment holds the cleaning tools and oiler, the other holds the flax thread).

A special RG34a set was issued for the sub calibre sets. One RG34 was issued per weapon, and one RG34a was issued per 3 sub calibre sets.

[Don M]

Originally Posted by klaus 3338

There were no Lugers issued to the Police during the Imperial time.

However, Lugers were issued to the Imperial-era Reichsgendarmerie in Elsaß-Lothringen and the Gendarmerien of Mecklenburg-Schwerin, Hessen and perhaps others. While these were not strictly speaking "police," they are often considered so.