Swiss Luger ?

65Sarge19 · 05-26-2010, 06:33 PM

I recently aquired a swiss luger and am interested in selling it. I don't know very much about it. I was told that it is a 190? swiss with the cross and sunburst. If anyone can give me some information on the best way to sell this for a reasonable amount it would be appreciated. I know the pictures are not the best and i will try to get better ones posted.

dlcm · 05-26-2010, 06:47 PM

PM sent

c3006 · 05-26-2010, 11:39 PM

Before you do anything post some better pics and wait for input from some of the experts on the forum. c

65Sarge19 · 05-30-2010, 01:33 AM

Can anyone give me some pointers on taking better pics. I have been trying but nothing seems to work.

65Sarge19 · 05-30-2010, 01:55 AM

Maybe these are better?

Norme · 05-30-2010, 09:07 AM

H Barry, Welcome to the forum. Your Swiss Luger looks pretty nice, as far as I can tell from the out of focus photos. If you want more information than that, you're just going to have to break down and read the manual that came with your camera (I know this is something real men don't do). I had quite a shock when I saw the photo of the Luger with a left handed safety, until I realized it was taken in a mirror! Best regards, Norm

Ron Wood · 05-30-2010, 11:20 AM

The mirror images faked me out for a moment also! You have a very nice looking early 1900 Swiss Commercial with the early Type II thumb safety. A later reinforced Swiss extractor has been installed. The rear sight is as original and has not been modified to a U shape. You either photographed it with two different magazines or the metal disc is missing from the right side of the magazine base.

It would be helpful to know the serial number of the gun and perhaps a couple of photos of the magazine. I am guessing it is a 3-digit serial number, perhaps 540?

Do you have a macro setting on your camera? It usually is indicated by a flower symbol. That will allow you to take close up photos that are in focus.

Thanks for the pics and hopefully you can provide a bit more info and photos. It is a quite desirable gun but, as such, it needs pretty detailed information to better assess value.
Ron

c3006 · 05-30-2010, 04:24 PM

There gettin better,I like to go outside in the morning before the sun gets up to far and use natural light. The macro feature will take much better closeups. A member posted this thread which is very helpfull Best c
http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthre...ight=light+box

65Sarge19 · 05-31-2010, 02:36 AM

I took some more but i will try the light box idea next. Thanks for the help. In the mean time here are a few more. The serial number is in the low 5000.

65Sarge19 · 05-31-2010, 02:45 AM

I took some more but i will try the light box idea next. Thanks for the help. In the mean time here are a few more. The serial number is in the low 5000.

c3006 · 05-31-2010, 09:11 AM

Looks like a nice swiss to me. The only thing I know about it is I cant afford it. c

65Sarge19 · 06-01-2010, 12:08 AM

Here are some more. I think they are getting better. What else would you like to see pictures of?

Norme · 06-01-2010, 08:45 AM

Hi Barry, We have several Swiss Luger experts on this forum, and I'm not one of them. However, I'm sure the y would like to see the following clear, sharp photos: The marks on the left front frame, the area beneath the barrel showing the serial and all marks, And the opening at the bottom of the frame where the magazine is inserted. Regards, Norm

Ron Wood · 06-01-2010, 03:02 PM

Thank you for the additional photos. After careful review of the photos, it appears that you have an original finish, or proper Swiss refurbishment, Luger. It is always difficult to tell from photos, but it appears that it is in superlative condition. Without hands on evaluation to confirm what I see in the photos, I would expect it to be in the $5000 range, perhaps a bit more.

65Sarge19 · 06-02-2010, 02:18 AM

Thank you for the information. Is there anyone in the midwest that has the knowledge to assist me with a hands on evaluation and possibly find someone interested in purchasing this from me?

Norme · 06-02-2010, 10:34 PM

Hi Barry, The Midwest is a pretty big place. I think you need to be a little more specific. Regards, Norm

c3006 · 06-03-2010, 06:54 AM

All my kids have started popin out grandbabys and this phenominon has cut severly into my Luger buyin money or I would be trying to own this piece

In the famous words of our president(Lets be perfectly clear) Im really likin the grandbabys

65Sarge19 · 06-09-2010, 09:56 AM

Minnesota.
Barry

Dwight Gruber · 06-09-2010, 12:40 PM

Very nice gun. Could you please report the full serial number for the Commercial database?

The magazine with the metal inserts in the base is Swiss military-style. The proper commercial magazine for this gun would be unmarked with a plain base.

--Dwight

05-26-2010, 06:33 PM	#1
65Sarge19 User Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Swiss Luger ? I recently aquired a swiss luger and am interested in selling it. I don't know very much about it. I was told that it is a 190? swiss with the cross and sunburst. If anyone can give me some information on the best way to sell this for a reasonable amount it would be appreciated. I know the pictures are not the best and i will try to get better ones posted. Attached Thumbnails

05-26-2010, 11:39 PM	#3
c3006 User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: east tn Posts: 526 Thanks: 5 Thanked 12 Times in 5 Posts	Before you do anything post some better pics and wait for input from some of the experts on the forum. c __________________ Men Accustomed unto thier arms and their liberties will never endure the yoke. James Harrington 1776

05-30-2010, 01:55 AM	#5
65Sarge19 User Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Maybe these are better? Attached Thumbnails

05-30-2010, 11:20 AM	#7
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,020 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,173 Times in 1,701 Posts	The mirror images faked me out for a moment also! You have a very nice looking early 1900 Swiss Commercial with the early Type II thumb safety. A later reinforced Swiss extractor has been installed. The rear sight is as original and has not been modified to a U shape. You either photographed it with two different magazines or the metal disc is missing from the right side of the magazine base. It would be helpful to know the serial number of the gun and perhaps a couple of photos of the magazine. I am guessing it is a 3-digit serial number, perhaps 540? Do you have a macro setting on your camera? It usually is indicated by a flower symbol. That will allow you to take close up photos that are in focus. Thanks for the pics and hopefully you can provide a bit more info and photos. It is a quite desirable gun but, as such, it needs pretty detailed information to better assess value. Ron __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

05-30-2010, 04:24 PM	#8
c3006 User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: east tn Posts: 526 Thanks: 5 Thanked 12 Times in 5 Posts	There gettin better,I like to go outside in the morning before the sun gets up to far and use natural light. The macro feature will take much better closeups. A member posted this thread which is very helpfull Best c http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthre...ight=light+box __________________ Men Accustomed unto thier arms and their liberties will never endure the yoke. James Harrington 1776

05-26-2010, 06:47 PM	#2
dlcm User Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 16 Thanks: 3 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	PM sent

05-30-2010, 01:33 AM	#4
65Sarge19 User Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Can anyone give me some pointers on taking better pics. I have been trying but nothing seems to work.

05-30-2010, 09:07 AM	#6
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,417 Thanks: 226 Thanked 2,603 Times in 933 Posts	H Barry, Welcome to the forum. Your Swiss Luger looks pretty nice, as far as I can tell from the out of focus photos. If you want more information than that, you're just going to have to break down and read the manual that came with your camera (I know this is something real men don't do). I had quite a shock when I saw the photo of the Luger with a left handed safety, until I realized it was taken in a mirror! Best regards, Norm

05-31-2010, 02:36 AM	#9
65Sarge19 User Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I took some more but i will try the light box idea next. Thanks for the help. In the mean time here are a few more. The serial number is in the low 5000.

05-31-2010, 02:45 AM	#10
65Sarge19 User Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I took some more but i will try the light box idea next. Thanks for the help. In the mean time here are a few more. The serial number is in the low 5000. Attached Thumbnails

05-31-2010, 09:11 AM	#11
c3006 User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: east tn Posts: 526 Thanks: 5 Thanked 12 Times in 5 Posts	Looks like a nice swiss to me. The only thing I know about it is I cant afford it. c __________________ Men Accustomed unto thier arms and their liberties will never endure the yoke. James Harrington 1776

06-01-2010, 12:08 AM	#12
65Sarge19 User Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Here are some more. I think they are getting better. What else would you like to see pictures of? Attached Thumbnails

06-01-2010, 08:45 AM	#13
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,417 Thanks: 226 Thanked 2,603 Times in 933 Posts	Hi Barry, We have several Swiss Luger experts on this forum, and I'm not one of them. However, I'm sure the y would like to see the following clear, sharp photos: The marks on the left front frame, the area beneath the barrel showing the serial and all marks, And the opening at the bottom of the frame where the magazine is inserted. Regards, Norm

06-01-2010, 03:02 PM	#14
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,020 Thanks: 1,090 Thanked 5,173 Times in 1,701 Posts	Thank you for the additional photos. After careful review of the photos, it appears that you have an original finish, or proper Swiss refurbishment, Luger. It is always difficult to tell from photos, but it appears that it is in superlative condition. Without hands on evaluation to confirm what I see in the photos, I would expect it to be in the $5000 range, perhaps a bit more. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

06-02-2010, 02:18 AM	#15
65Sarge19 User Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thank you for the information. Is there anyone in the midwest that has the knowledge to assist me with a hands on evaluation and possibly find someone interested in purchasing this from me?

06-02-2010, 10:34 PM	#16
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,417 Thanks: 226 Thanked 2,603 Times in 933 Posts	Hi Barry, The Midwest is a pretty big place. I think you need to be a little more specific. Regards, Norm

06-03-2010, 06:54 AM	#17
c3006 User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: east tn Posts: 526 Thanks: 5 Thanked 12 Times in 5 Posts	All my kids have started popin out grandbabys and this phenominon has cut severly into my Luger buyin money or I would be trying to own this piece In the famous words of our president(Lets be perfectly clear) Im really likin the grandbabys __________________ Men Accustomed unto thier arms and their liberties will never endure the yoke. James Harrington 1776

06-09-2010, 09:56 AM	#18
65Sarge19 User Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Minnesota. Barry

06-09-2010, 12:40 PM	#19
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,900 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,313 Times in 430 Posts	Very nice gun. Could you please report the full serial number for the Commercial database? The magazine with the metal inserts in the base is Swiss military-style. The proper commercial magazine for this gun would be unmarked with a plain base. --Dwight