Proper pics of my BYF42, take a look

Fenian · 02-12-2010, 10:52 PM

Hello gents!

Well I've finally got my hands on a functioning digital camera, believe it or not. Some of you will remember my earlier attempts in the new collector's forum with my cellphone.
The unmarked grips that came with the pistol are more clearly visible in these photos, as are the rest of the weapon overall. Any additional thoughts are greatly appreciated as to the originality of the grips, the FXO mag that came with it or whatever. All the serial numbers match.
I paid $1400 for this pistol in NY State last month. How'd I do?
Thanks for looking!
ETA
The spotting on the finish in pic # 5 forward of the side plate is from the silicone cloth I wiped the pistol down with, the finish isn't spotty.

wdavid431 · 02-13-2010, 08:19 AM

Great looking Luger.

Frank · 02-13-2010, 10:02 AM

Fenian, I think you did okay, now get a nice magazine (without chips).

Norme · 02-13-2010, 10:03 AM

Hi Fenian, Your byf 42 looks like a nice gun - original and unmessed with. The black plastic based mag is correct for your gun. It's hard to tell about the grips. Late Mauser grip numbering was very erratic. I have seen them numbered, unnumbered, and SE/655 or SE/135 marked. A picture of the inside of the grips might help. Regards, Norm

mrerick · 02-13-2010, 10:29 AM

My Banner has the same cursive letter suffix. I haven't found this letter form in the reference postings, but have gotten advice that it is a cursive "y" with a dot over it (the closed top of the "y").

Frank · 02-13-2010, 01:33 PM

mrerick, the suffix letter on Fenian's 42 byf is a "g"!!!!!!

It is NOT a "y" with a dot over it!!!!!!!

mrerick · 02-13-2010, 05:59 PM

Frank, Thanks for this feedback.

We thought it might be a "g" also, or possibly a "q".

All the photos of the cursive "g" letters had a looped tail.

Is there a reference that includes this version of the cursive letter?

Thanks, Marc

tharpo · 02-13-2010, 06:39 PM

Marc,
Go to the Technical Information on the left of your screen. Go to markings, then to Ed Tinkers suffix photos, than to F-H. There is a similar "g" in his photos.

Tom

Fenian · 02-13-2010, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank

Fenian, I think you did okay, now get a nice magazine (without chips).

Yeah, I've been looking. Those things are expensive!

barr44 · 02-14-2010, 05:56 PM

Just curious, but shouldn't there be bore dimensions on the underside of the barrel? Or did they stop stamping these dimensions in the later part of '41. I know on the few 'byf' '41s I've been able to examine, they all had these dimensions.
Just trying to fill in blanks.
Thanks, barr

Neil Young · 02-14-2010, 06:44 PM

See Frank's survey. Some have the bore dimensions and some don't. Mine does not have them.

Neil Young

Frank · 02-14-2010, 07:34 PM

barr, the bore gage marking was eliminated at about the midway point of the d suffix range.

BTW, thanks for all those that provided data for this point of information!!!

Fenian · 02-14-2010, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norme

A picture of the inside of the grips might help.

What do you think???????

Pic #1 looks like a different set of grips due to lighting, but it's the same grips.

Somebody tell me these are original!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Norme · 02-14-2010, 11:23 PM

Hi Fenian, Your grips look like the real deal to me. Happy Valentine's Day! Regards, Norm

barr44 · 02-15-2010, 08:53 PM

Thanks Frank and Instumpy,

That's good information about the bore dimensions. I must have missed your survey, probably didn't have a 'byf' then. The one I have is a '41 byf, s.n. 4435t and it has the bore dimensions. Can't remember the s.n. of the others I've looked at, since they weren't mine.
This is a great place for info, thanks again,
barr

Fenian · 02-18-2010, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norme

Hi Fenian, Your grips look like the real deal to me. Happy Valentine's Day! Regards, Norm

Thank you sir!

Exactly what I was hoping to hear.

02-13-2010, 08:19 AM	#2
wdavid431 User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Arkansas Posts: 135 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Great looking Luger. __________________ W David

02-14-2010, 05:56 PM	#10
barr44 User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: york co., va Posts: 152 Thanks: 27 Thanked 35 Times in 21 Posts	Bore Dimensions? Just curious, but shouldn't there be bore dimensions on the underside of the barrel? Or did they stop stamping these dimensions in the later part of '41. I know on the few 'byf' '41s I've been able to examine, they all had these dimensions. Just trying to fill in blanks. Thanks, barr

02-14-2010, 06:44 PM	#11
Neil Young Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Scottsboro, Alabama Posts: 546 Thanks: 559 Thanked 442 Times in 168 Posts	See Frank's survey. Some have the bore dimensions and some don't. Mine does not have them. Neil Young __________________ Neil The hurrier I go the behinder I get. Sometimes it takes me all day to get nothing done.

02-15-2010, 08:53 PM	#15
barr44 User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: york co., va Posts: 152 Thanks: 27 Thanked 35 Times in 21 Posts	Bore Dimensions? Thanks Frank and Instumpy, That's good information about the bore dimensions. I must have missed your survey, probably didn't have a 'byf' then. The one I have is a '41 byf, s.n. 4435t and it has the bore dimensions. Can't remember the s.n. of the others I've looked at, since they weren't mine. This is a great place for info, thanks again, barr

02-12-2010, 10:52 PM	#1
Fenian User Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 27 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Proper pics of my BYF42, take a look Hello gents! Well I've finally got my hands on a functioning digital camera, believe it or not. Some of you will remember my earlier attempts in the new collector's forum with my cellphone. The unmarked grips that came with the pistol are more clearly visible in these photos, as are the rest of the weapon overall. Any additional thoughts are greatly appreciated as to the originality of the grips, the FXO mag that came with it or whatever. All the serial numbers match. I paid $1400 for this pistol in NY State last month. How'd I do? Thanks for looking! ETA The spotting on the finish in pic # 5 forward of the side plate is from the silicone cloth I wiped the pistol down with, the finish isn't spotty. Last edited by Fenian; 02-13-2010 at 12:15 AM.

02-13-2010, 10:02 AM	#3
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	Fenian, I think you did okay, now get a nice magazine (without chips).

02-13-2010, 10:03 AM	#4
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,417 Thanks: 226 Thanked 2,603 Times in 933 Posts	Hi Fenian, Your byf 42 looks like a nice gun - original and unmessed with. The black plastic based mag is correct for your gun. It's hard to tell about the grips. Late Mauser grip numbering was very erratic. I have seen them numbered, unnumbered, and SE/655 or SE/135 marked. A picture of the inside of the grips might help. Regards, Norm

02-13-2010, 10:29 AM	#5
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,909 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 3,110 Times in 1,510 Posts	My Banner has the same cursive letter suffix. I haven't found this letter form in the reference postings, but have gotten advice that it is a cursive "y" with a dot over it (the closed top of the "y").

02-13-2010, 01:33 PM	#6
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	mrerick, the suffix letter on Fenian's 42 byf is a "g"!!!!!! It is NOT a "y" with a dot over it!!!!!!!

02-13-2010, 05:59 PM	#7
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,909 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 3,110 Times in 1,510 Posts	Frank, Thanks for this feedback. We thought it might be a "g" also, or possibly a "q". All the photos of the cursive "g" letters had a looped tail. Is there a reference that includes this version of the cursive letter? Thanks, Marc

02-13-2010, 06:39 PM	#8
tharpo Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: West Coast, USA Posts: 543 Thanks: 116 Thanked 382 Times in 157 Posts	Marc, Go to the Technical Information on the left of your screen. Go to markings, then to Ed Tinkers suffix photos, than to F-H. There is a similar "g" in his photos. Tom

02-14-2010, 07:34 PM	#12
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	barr, the bore gage marking was eliminated at about the midway point of the d suffix range. BTW, thanks for all those that provided data for this point of information!!!

02-14-2010, 11:23 PM	#14
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,417 Thanks: 226 Thanked 2,603 Times in 933 Posts	Hi Fenian, Your grips look like the real deal to me. Happy Valentine's Day! Regards, Norm