Double proofs on barrel 1918/1920

barr44 · 01-26-2010, 11:13 AM

I have just acquired a 1918/1920 chamber marked DWM luger. The gun is in good condition with all matching numbers except for the mag. For some reason there are two (Weimer?)proofs on the barrel. Would anyone know why there would be two proofs? Would this be an indication that the gun was reworked by the Erfurt factory? There are no grip strap markings and the gun was not fitted with a sear safety, so I believe it would have been for military use.
As always will appreciate all input from the forum.
Thanks, barr.

barr44 · 01-26-2010, 11:22 AM

I didn't quite get the photos right for the inquiry, so I have added them now.
Sorry, barr

EricW · 01-27-2010, 02:28 AM

no help here on the proofs, but curious about the barrel... is it the lighting, or are the sides of the barrel flat?

Lugerdoc · 01-27-2010, 10:37 AM

Eric, Your photo of the barrel proofs is not close enough to read them clearly. If one of them is E/6 or 33, this is probably a Simson barrel that was install during the post WW1 period during a rework. TH

barr44 · 01-28-2010, 09:41 AM

Eric,
The barrel is round, the photo may appear to make it look flat.
Doc, the proof is the Imperial eagle used in the WWI period. Most of the lugers I have seen have the Imperial eagle on the rt. side of the barrel, some have it on the upper right, but they are usually placed back near the chamber. On this particular gun it has a second Imperial eagle midway up the barrel on top.
Just curious as I have not seen this before, perhaps it was a barrel change, but I don't know why they would have proofed it twice. Perhaps the barrel had issues on it's first proofing and was re-proofed after examination or correction.
The two imperial eagle proofs should be apparent in the upper photo of the barrel.
Thanks, barr.

01-26-2010, 11:13 AM	#1
barr44 User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: york co., va Posts: 151 Thanks: 27 Thanked 35 Times in 21 Posts	Double proofs on barrel 1918/1920 I have just acquired a 1918/1920 chamber marked DWM luger. The gun is in good condition with all matching numbers except for the mag. For some reason there are two (Weimer?)proofs on the barrel. Would anyone know why there would be two proofs? Would this be an indication that the gun was reworked by the Erfurt factory? There are no grip strap markings and the gun was not fitted with a sear safety, so I believe it would have been for military use. As always will appreciate all input from the forum. Thanks, barr.

01-26-2010, 11:22 AM	#2
barr44 User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: york co., va Posts: 151 Thanks: 27 Thanked 35 Times in 21 Posts	Photos of 1918/1920! I didn't quite get the photos right for the inquiry, so I have added them now. Sorry, barr Attached Thumbnails

01-27-2010, 02:28 AM	#3
EricW User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: CA, USA Posts: 62 Thanks: 4 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	no help here on the proofs, but curious about the barrel... is it the lighting, or are the sides of the barrel flat? __________________ I'm looking for a D suffix DE154 G Date mag. The closer to #457d the better PM me if you have one you are willing to sell, trade, or if you have a lead

01-27-2010, 10:37 AM	#4
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Eric, Your photo of the barrel proofs is not close enough to read them clearly. If one of them is E/6 or 33, this is probably a Simson barrel that was install during the post WW1 period during a rework. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

01-28-2010, 09:41 AM	#5
barr44 User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: york co., va Posts: 151 Thanks: 27 Thanked 35 Times in 21 Posts	Double proof marks on barrel. Eric, The barrel is round, the photo may appear to make it look flat. Doc, the proof is the Imperial eagle used in the WWI period. Most of the lugers I have seen have the Imperial eagle on the rt. side of the barrel, some have it on the upper right, but they are usually placed back near the chamber. On this particular gun it has a second Imperial eagle midway up the barrel on top. Just curious as I have not seen this before, perhaps it was a barrel change, but I don't know why they would have proofed it twice. Perhaps the barrel had issues on it's first proofing and was re-proofed after examination or correction. The two imperial eagle proofs should be apparent in the upper photo of the barrel. Thanks, barr.