can you help figure out what ive got?

mikedangerous · 04-29-2009, 02:09 AM

can anyone tell me what these markings mean, and how much its worth?

mikedangerous · 04-29-2009, 02:09 AM

more pics

mikedangerous · 04-29-2009, 02:13 AM

sorry here they are...

DavidJayUden · 04-29-2009, 09:46 AM

From what I can see, which is not all that much, a WW1 9mm Luger converted to police duty. Non-matching mags. Value in today's market? I'll guess around $1200 assuming the gun matches. Ed?
DJU

alanint · 04-29-2009, 10:52 AM

Is there a cartouche branded into the grips? If, can you provide a close-up?

Ron Smith · 04-29-2009, 11:12 AM

Your Luger is marked EWB on the grip. Indicating issue to "Einwohnerwehr Bayern" [People's Militia of Bavaria].

This was a People's Militia formed at the end of WWI in Bavaria to defend against the lawless rampant unheaval that took place. Looting, Gang warfare between Criminal gangs, Communist and Anarchist factions.

This Luger Rig would be considered a fairly desirable piece amongst some collectors. The 'cross axis' numbered magazine also has some value. It is a very early production example. Is the tool and / or holster marked also?

Ron

mikedangerous · 04-29-2009, 01:39 PM

the holster is marked with the same sn as the gun, and im almost positive the tool is too. what do you think i could get for it?

Ron Smith · 04-29-2009, 01:50 PM

Value is subjective. Without a hands on, inside out inspection of the Luger and accessories, I'm going to refrain from offering a value. Possibly another member would like to make an estimate. It is a not rare, but is a not often seen variation.

Ron

mikedangerous · 04-29-2009, 02:35 PM

here's a closeup of the sn on the holster.

Edward Tinker · 04-29-2009, 03:19 PM

$1200-$1500, as the market is light right now. It has two magazines, but they don't match and the mag on the left appears overstamped. Also, it very much depends on if all the parts match, ie. the last two numbers of the sn must match, if not, then probably $900-$1000 for everything.

An Imperial police that has been converted is not worth as much as say an unconverted imperial.

The EWB definately adds value, however, the market is small for something like this, compared to say a imperial marking on the grip strap.

I don't have one of these yet, looking for anything in trade or parts or?

Ed

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SIGP2101 · 04-30-2009, 02:53 PM

Looks refinished to me, but I am faaar from the expert

Rounded edges on the breach, and extractor
Clearly defined metal finish on the breach but numbering are not that clear.
Bottom of the stamping are all black more that I like.
No wear on bluing on the slide at the right from the trigger plate.

Please educate me I am learning. Here is the pic to be clear.

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Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Your Luger is marked EWB on the grip. Indicating issue to "Einwohnerwehr Bayern" [People's Militia of Bavaria]. This was a People's Militia formed at the end of WWI in Bavaria to defend against the lawless rampant unheaval that took place. Looting, Gang warfare between Criminal gangs, Communist and Anarchist factions. This Luger Rig would be considered a fairly desirable piece amongst some collectors. The 'cross axis' numbered magazine also has some value. It is a very early production example. Is the tool and / or holster marked also? Ron Attached Thumbnails __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

04-29-2009, 01:39 PM	#7
mikedangerous User Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	thanks guys the holster is marked with the same sn as the gun, and im almost positive the tool is too. what do you think i could get for it?

04-29-2009, 01:50 PM	#8
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Value is subjective. Without a hands on, inside out inspection of the Luger and accessories, I'm going to refrain from offering a value. Possibly another member would like to make an estimate. It is a not rare, but is a not often seen variation. Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

04-29-2009, 09:46 AM	#4
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	From what I can see, which is not all that much, a WW1 9mm Luger converted to police duty. Non-matching mags. Value in today's market? I'll guess around $1200 assuming the gun matches. Ed? DJU

04-29-2009, 10:52 AM	#5
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	Is there a cartouche branded into the grips? If, can you provide a close-up?

04-29-2009, 02:35 PM	#9
mikedangerous User Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	here's a closeup of the sn on the holster. Attached Thumbnails

04-29-2009, 03:19 PM	#10
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,931 Thanks: 2,032 Thanked 4,527 Times in 2,090 Posts	$1200-$1500, as the market is light right now. It has two magazines, but they don't match and the mag on the left appears overstamped. Also, it very much depends on if all the parts match, ie. the last two numbers of the sn must match, if not, then probably $900-$1000 for everything. An Imperial police that has been converted is not worth as much as say an unconverted imperial. The EWB definately adds value, however, the market is small for something like this, compared to say a imperial marking on the grip strap. I don't have one of these yet, looking for anything in trade or parts or? Ed weimar_lugers@verizon.net

04-30-2009, 02:53 PM	#11
SIGP2101 User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 256 Thanks: 74 Thanked 67 Times in 32 Posts	Looks refinished to me, but I am faaar from the expert Rounded edges on the breach, and extractor Clearly defined metal finish on the breach but numbering are not that clear. Bottom of the stamping are all black more that I like. No wear on bluing on the slide at the right from the trigger plate. Please educate me I am learning. Here is the pic to be clear. Attached Thumbnails