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SIGP2101 · 04-25-2008, 01:59 PM

Need to know more about this Luger, would you guys be so kind to tell me all that could possibly be concluded from these pics. I know it is not a lot. To me it looks like refinished and "improved" looking arti. Maybe buffed a bit.

http://www.increatum.com/~stue/Luger/

I may have a chance to see it first hand for appraisal.

Thanks

SIGP2101

Edward Tinker · 04-25-2008, 03:44 PM

definately reblued. If they are asking a shooter price than it would be okay, but not as a collectable gun.

Ed

Big Norm · 04-26-2008, 10:50 AM

The pics are a little too dark to really tell for sure, but I think that Ed hit it right.
(1) the right hand side of the tang sight looks good. Nice and flat with sharp serial number.

(2) the left most part of the British marks under the barrel look like they have been buffed

(3) the inside of the right rabbit ears look like there is a depression there that would suggest that that area has been buffed.

(4) the right hand proof marks COULD BE ok.

These are just possibilities. Hard to really tell without the pictures being made lighter. MORE and better pictures are necessary. So don't hold my feet to the fire.

The gun could have been spot redone.

Big Norm

Vlim · 04-27-2008, 06:30 AM

OK,

Here it goes:
-Reblue: Yes, the gun got a salt dip reblue, which is much darker and a bit glossier than the original blue. The sharp edges and the texture the gun originally had have been lost by the preparations needed for the reblue.
-As Norm said: The gun has been reproofed in the UK and it looks like this was done before it was reblued.
-The strawing: Not complete and way too bright gold to be original. Note that the takedown lever and magazine catch are now blue, should be strawed. Also: The grip screws should be fire blued, not strawed.
-The grips: Well, eh, 'pimp versions'.
-So basically someone did his best to make this gun prettier, although I wouldn't call it a restoration job. But combined with a decent set of wooden grips, a touch up of the few pieces that were not correctly finished and the addition of a nice stock this gun would make a nice shooter artillery, but never a collectible one.

04-25-2008, 01:59 PM	#1
SIGP2101 User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 256 Thanks: 74 Thanked 67 Times in 32 Posts	Interesting Arti Need to know more about this Luger, would you guys be so kind to tell me all that could possibly be concluded from these pics. I know it is not a lot. To me it looks like refinished and "improved" looking arti. Maybe buffed a bit. http://www.increatum.com/~stue/Luger/ I may have a chance to see it first hand for appraisal. Thanks SIGP2101

04-25-2008, 03:44 PM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,927 Thanks: 2,026 Thanked 4,524 Times in 2,090 Posts	definately reblued. If they are asking a shooter price than it would be okay, but not as a collectable gun. Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

04-26-2008, 10:50 AM	#3
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	The pics are a little too dark to really tell for sure, but I think that Ed hit it right. (1) the right hand side of the tang sight looks good. Nice and flat with sharp serial number. (2) the left most part of the British marks under the barrel look like they have been buffed (3) the inside of the right rabbit ears look like there is a depression there that would suggest that that area has been buffed. (4) the right hand proof marks COULD BE ok. These are just possibilities. Hard to really tell without the pictures being made lighter. MORE and better pictures are necessary. So don't hold my feet to the fire. The gun could have been spot redone. Big Norm

04-27-2008, 06:30 AM	#4
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,988 Times in 1,205 Posts	OK, Here it goes: -Reblue: Yes, the gun got a salt dip reblue, which is much darker and a bit glossier than the original blue. The sharp edges and the texture the gun originally had have been lost by the preparations needed for the reblue. -As Norm said: The gun has been reproofed in the UK and it looks like this was done before it was reblued. -The strawing: Not complete and way too bright gold to be original. Note that the takedown lever and magazine catch are now blue, should be strawed. Also: The grip screws should be fire blued, not strawed. -The grips: Well, eh, 'pimp versions'. -So basically someone did his best to make this gun prettier, although I wouldn't call it a restoration job. But combined with a decent set of wooden grips, a touch up of the few pieces that were not correctly finished and the addition of a nice stock this gun would make a nice shooter artillery, but never a collectible one.