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08-19-2007, 10:08 AM | #21 |
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early navies, later ones were built the same. Remember, these were all new ideas at the time and they were trying different combinations or requirments by gov'ts (sometimes wild ideas were tried)...
ed PS: lugers don't have clips
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08-19-2007, 10:13 AM | #22 |
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The only Navy I have is a 1908 and it has the wide flange. I have become so disillusioned over the years with the way Lugers have been enhanced that I just stay away from the high end Lugers. Another reason is I just don't have that kind of money to tie up in a collectable grade Luger. larry |
08-19-2007, 09:22 PM | #24 |
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Ed, according to Webster's dictionary Lugers do indeed have "CLIPS"
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Tim, you raise a very interesting point as to WHY the wide flange. Ed's opinion is as reasonable as any others. But you are correct (I think)..the 1908 and later Navies were the only lugers with the wide flange. It would be nice to take a poll of the 1908 and later Navies to see which ones do not have the wide flange. But then a controversy would certainly ensue challenging the authenticity of the narrow flanged guns.
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It says in Websters that lugers feed rounds from "clips"? Interesting, and I don't really mind either way, but long time collectors have always told me; pistols have magazines, rifles feed from clips (ala M1 Garand, Arisaka, Enfield, etc).
You use a clip to load some pistols, i.e. Mannlichers, Broomhandles, etc., but generally you use magazines. Ed
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It defines the meaning of the word clip.It says nothing about Lugers. Words take on the meaning of how people use them.What once was may no longer be "correct"
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Tim, you are correct and I apoligize if my manner or remarks offended. Did not mean it that way, was probably malibu and orange juice that wrote my 1st remark anyway.
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Ed,No offense was taken.I just like to have interesting conversations with people.Enough of that,now back to the flange.It must have something to do with the Navy rear sight on the rear link.It may be ease of disassembly or putting it back together the same way evertime. Anybodys guess.
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The tool is completely bogus. Tom A |
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I am sure that tool can be traced to Popeye (who served on Imperial U-boats before coming to the cartoon-world in the USA) with a provenance letter found in TX state... |
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Just out of curiosity, were the stamps applied before or after phosphating?
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11-17-2007, 05:23 PM | #33 |
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