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08-31-2007, 09:51 PM | #1 |
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1917 Artillery Luger with adjustable front sight
I recently found a 1917 Artillery Luger that has a front sight that is screw-adjustable left and right. The Tangent rear sight has an adjusting screw as well to fine tune the vertical adjustment.
The screw is not slotted. Instead, it has two very small holes for a tiny spanner wrench. I have looked through JHohn Walter's book and i have found not reference to a sight of this type. Does anyone here have any information? |
08-31-2007, 10:05 PM | #2 |
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CMM, are you just asking if artillery's came in adjustable and non-adjustable models? If so, the answer is yes. I do not know the cut off date, but know that both models were made. There are several threads on this, I think On Jan Still's board, but I beleive that George Anderson has discussed this before also.
here are just a couple; http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthre...ight+artillery http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthre...ight+artillery Ed
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The change over from fine tune adjustable sights, both front and rear occurred during 1917. Some 1917 marked LP-08s have only one of the sights that is adjustable, depending on what parts were still available, whereas those pistols towerds the end of the production year have none.
Early 1917 LP-08s still had both sights fine tuned. Joe
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09-03-2007, 08:56 AM | #4 |
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1917 is the transition year from fine tune sights. As noted above throughout the 1917 production one finds LP08's with both sights f/t, neither f/t and either front or back f/t. The last case where one or the other is fine tuned can also be found on occasional 1918 dated LP08's an indication that at the DWM plant components were drawn from available stock randomly.
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09-06-2007, 06:59 AM | #5 |
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Thanks very much for this information. I plan to make some accuracy tests soon. I want to determine the maximun distance that an Artillery Luger can be employed and still has a 75% probability of getting a first-round hit on an IPSC size target.
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Captain, The Germans already did that early in the turn of the Century. Jerry Burney
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Captain Monty Mendenhall -
Here is a picture of what the sight adjustment tool looks like. Mauser720 - Ron |
10-03-2007, 06:46 AM | #8 |
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Thanks very much Ron. I have never seen one before. It is much as I had imagined though. If you will send a high resolution picture of it to me (capmonty@aol.com), I will see that you get photocredit in SMALL ARMS REVIEW if we use it.
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I am currently traveling, so I do not have access to my best digital camera. The picture I posted was taken with a Nikon Cool Pix model 5700. If you could wait a week to ten days, I will be back home and able to use a much better Olympus camera. I will also be able to insert a "scale" in the picture, such as those by archaeologists to show the exact size of the object being photographed. Are there any other related items you might be interested in, such as one of the 32-round drum magazines (a Type Two), or the canvas carrier for the drum magazine (reproduction) or the artillery cleaning rod (reproduction), etc.? Mauser720 - Ron |
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"I want to determine the maximun distance that an Artillery Luger can be employed and still has a 75% probability of getting a first-round hit on an IPSC size target."
Hi Monty, I can tell you from experience, that a stocked artillery Luger is quite capable of a first round hit at well over 200yds. If the shooter does his part. Ron
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There is no rush for any of this Ron. Take your time. I would lioke the other pictures that you mentioned as well.
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Okay, Monty, will do. Ron
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