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12-15-2006, 07:24 PM | #1 |
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magazine / clips
Im new here. will it hurt any thing to leave the magazine in the gun while its not in use. [Display] etc. or should you remove it?
and what is the diff. in a magazine and a clip? on the 1911 board they talk a lot about clips and here its always magazines. in GA. |
12-15-2006, 07:30 PM | #2 |
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Welcome to the forum;
Depends on "whom" you talk to. Personally I do not mind if someone says clip, as the old Colt manuals called them clips. On most gunboards, a Clip is like for a rifle, i.e. a garand has an en bloc "clip", and pistols have magazines. I leave my magazines in my guns at all times. Ed
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lets take a pole....how many call it a clip and how many call it a mag....OK Ed??
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12-16-2006, 12:10 AM | #6 |
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I was beat to a pulp for calling a luger "magazine" a clip on this forum when I first started posting... Hard to say.. Ian V Hogg (author) did alot of research into this during the 1960's, he came to the same conclusive ideas of all in the past.
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12-16-2006, 02:46 AM | #7 |
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Hi,
I want to add that the original name in Germany was 'laderahmen', as they were used to stripper clips (ladestreifen), but not to magazines. They switched to the term 'magazin' rather quickly. Over here we tend to call it a 'magazijn' or still popular in the military and police world: 'patroonhouder' ('cartridge holder'). Leaving an empty magazine in a luger will allow it to push against the holdopen spring, but I doubt it will have much effect in the long run. Personally I don't like to see magazines in unused and unloaded guns, but that has more to do with firearms safety in a shooting environment and not with a collecting environment. |
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In early military usage a magazine is a storage area for ammunition for an artillery piece either on a ship or in a casement, and it feeds ammunition to the gun. With the advent of repeater firearms in the ninteenth century the word magazine described the area that fed ammo to the weapon. The things used to feed the magazine were called clips. Stripper clips fed the magazines on such weapons as the C96, GEW98, Model 1903, etc. As a kid growing up on Army posts and surrounded by guns, I called them all clips. Whether for a .22 cal rifle, a Nambu or an M1, they were all clips. Of course they all fed ammo into guns and I called them all guns. A little later in life a drill sergeant at Ft Bragg persuaded me to differentiate between the several firearms. He actually did this with a quaint little rhyme and a boot in the ass. The same sergeant may also have taught me the difference between a clip and a magazine. Can't remember now. |
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in my younger days when i use to handle an M16a1 we got our ammo. in what we called strips. which were in small cardboard pkg,s. and then were trans. to what we called clips and then the clips were installed in the weapon and ammo. pouch,s and the strips were discarded.
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I saw somebody use the term "charger" once on eBay.
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Using the term charger on ebay is throw off their gun censoring auction police... I think it shows the ingenuity of the gun owner to keep a liberal organization like ebay confused...
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In 1978 when going through Military training, we were taught that a "clip" disappears into the firearm completely and a magazine "mag" protrudes. Such as: M16 20,30 rd. mag, M14 20 rd. mag, Sten 32 rd. Mag, Luger Snail Drum 32 rd. mag.....45 7 rd. clip, Browning 13rd. clip, Luger 7 rd. clip, etc.
It's an old thread but I thought interesting.
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Yeah this post is a bit old but I would like to clear up a few things
There is a difference between a clip and a magazine. The only reason I think people call a Magazine a "clip" is cause its fast/easy to say, or simply a habit. A clip is essentialy what it sounds like. A clip that holds bullets together. The M1 Garand is a good example. It has a 8 round en bloc CLIP, and that clip is inserted into the magazine. The magazine in the M1 is just an internal spring that gives the rounds in the clip force towards the chamber. Now when most people think of a Magazine, they are thinking of what is properly called a "Box Magazine". There are M1 Garand type magazines and what is called a Tubular Magazine, which is common on pump shotguns. The Box Magazine is all your handgun/rifle mags that are removable. ALL MAGAZINES have some sort of a spring, and clips generally do not! I say clip as a habit, but that isn't correct. I have met people who corrected me when I refered to my mag as a "clip". |
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