Nice 1919 Holster...

Pete Ebbink · 01-17-2006, 01:28 PM

Nice 1919-dated holster just came up on e-Bay...for a Swiss M1906 luger :

(I promise to stay out of the bidding...

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http://cgi.ebay.com/Swiss-Luger-Hols...ayphotohosting

Or do an e-Bay search for "Swiss luger"...

LU1900 · 01-17-2006, 06:23 PM

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LU1900 · 01-25-2006, 03:18 AM

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Pete Ebbink · 01-26-2006, 08:25 PM

Hi Patrice,

The e-Bay auction ad and its photos disappeared off of e-Bay before I had a chance to look over the photos again in reference to your questions...

Could you post photos of the straps you have...?

LU1900 · 01-28-2006, 02:19 PM

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Pete Ebbink · 01-28-2006, 02:26 PM

Sorry, Patrice...I have no idea about the 2nd. strap you show...maybe our LF members from CH will comment...???

I also recall LF member Bill Lyon might have/had a strap like yours as well...

Is the width of both straps the same...?

LU1900 · 01-28-2006, 02:29 PM

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John Sabato · 01-30-2006, 11:58 AM

Hello Pete, and Bonjour Patrice...

I would speculate that the two straps with the metal ends attached to the d-rings on the holster, suspending the holster under the arm and passing over the opposite shoulder, and the third strap with what appears to be a belt loop, was placed on the waist belt in a position to anchor the whole ensemble to be comfortable for use...

Just my mind working overtime

LU1900 · 01-30-2006, 01:12 PM

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wlyon · 01-30-2006, 06:00 PM

Pat , Petes memory is working I have the same type straps. They are also shown in Benders book Luger Holsters and Accessories. I have asked the question on this Forum but never an answer. Obviously they were fairly common. Bill

Guisan · 02-02-2006, 06:39 AM

Well the top strap is found on Swiss medic's pouches and that one could be carried in front by fitting the extra strap along the waist belt at the back and hanging the pouch over the shoulders in front of the soldier.
The pouch was made in a way that it folded open completely to get to all the contents.

The other two straps can be found with 06/29 and P49 holsters. I assume that these were used in the same way as the above one so to be able to carry the pistol in front of you.
This was more convenient in for example armoured vehicles and tanks that had quite narrow entrances (think of the post war AMX 13 light tank).
Some P49 holsters also had an extra stud fitted at the back of the holster to be able to carry the holster with opened flap and I think that was for the same purposes.

The straps for the medical pouches can also be found on holsters and I made the picture to show some differences.
For the medic's pouch the extra strap is 29cm or 11.4" long measured from the rivet to the end of it.
For the pistol straps this is 24cm or 9.45".
Most straps for medic's pouches use buttons for adjustment while most military holster straps seem to have buckles.

Thanks,
Guisan.

01-17-2006, 01:28 PM	#1
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Nice 1919 Holster... Nice 1919-dated holster just came up on e-Bay...for a Swiss M1906 luger : (I promise to stay out of the bidding... ) http://cgi.ebay.com/Swiss-Luger-Hols...ayphotohosting Or do an e-Bay search for "Swiss luger"...

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01-26-2006, 08:25 PM	#4
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hi Patrice, The e-Bay auction ad and its photos disappeared off of e-Bay before I had a chance to look over the photos again in reference to your questions... Could you post photos of the straps you have...?

01-28-2006, 02:26 PM	#6
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Sorry, Patrice...I have no idea about the 2nd. strap you show...maybe our LF members from CH will comment...??? I also recall LF member Bill Lyon might have/had a strap like yours as well... Is the width of both straps the same...?

01-30-2006, 11:58 AM	#8
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,154 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,306 Times in 1,097 Posts	Hello Pete, and Bonjour Patrice... I would speculate that the two straps with the metal ends attached to the d-rings on the holster, suspending the holster under the arm and passing over the opposite shoulder, and the third strap with what appears to be a belt loop, was placed on the waist belt in a position to anchor the whole ensemble to be comfortable for use... Just my mind working overtime __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

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01-30-2006, 06:00 PM	#10
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,635 Thanks: 3,174 Thanked 2,555 Times in 954 Posts	Pat , Petes memory is working I have the same type straps. They are also shown in Benders book Luger Holsters and Accessories. I have asked the question on this Forum but never an answer. Obviously they were fairly common. Bill __________________ Bill Lyon

02-02-2006, 06:39 AM	#11
Guisan User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 112 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Well the top strap is found on Swiss medic's pouches and that one could be carried in front by fitting the extra strap along the waist belt at the back and hanging the pouch over the shoulders in front of the soldier. The pouch was made in a way that it folded open completely to get to all the contents. The other two straps can be found with 06/29 and P49 holsters. I assume that these were used in the same way as the above one so to be able to carry the pistol in front of you. This was more convenient in for example armoured vehicles and tanks that had quite narrow entrances (think of the post war AMX 13 light tank). Some P49 holsters also had an extra stud fitted at the back of the holster to be able to carry the holster with opened flap and I think that was for the same purposes. The straps for the medical pouches can also be found on holsters and I made the picture to show some differences. For the medic's pouch the extra strap is 29cm or 11.4" long measured from the rivet to the end of it. For the pistol straps this is 24cm or 9.45". Most straps for medic's pouches use buttons for adjustment while most military holster straps seem to have buckles. Thanks, Guisan. __________________ Fight to your last cartridge, then fight with your bayonets. No surrender. Fight to the death. --Gen. Henri Guisan, Switzerland, July '40