Can This Pstol Be Id

aldo35 · 05-16-2015, 06:26 PM

A friend has this old pistol with no markings whatsoever. Can anyone ID this pistol

Patronen · 05-16-2015, 09:38 PM

It looks to be in the form of what were called "Suicide Specials" this looks like an early type being that most of them had a cylinder release pin where this one shows it's cap and ball heritage. It may be a conversion but I am thinking it was built that way from the ground up just into the cartridge era. What caliber is it? Any guess? .22,.32 etc. The cylinder lockup appears interesting as well. It appears to have a serial number or something under the missing grips. It may also have been hand made.

Edward Tinker · 05-16-2015, 10:13 PM

Looks like a smith & wesson knock-off ? I know there were many made in the later 1900's?

Would Smiths book cover something like this?

Ed

Curss · 05-17-2015, 01:05 PM

It might be a Moore's Patent Front loading revolver. Simpson's has a VERY similar revolver listed under antiques! Even the engraving looks similar! Inventory number C19517

http://www.simpsonltd.com/product_in...ducts_id=34989

Ron Wood · 05-17-2015, 02:04 PM

Moores was my impression. I seem to recall that the teat fire cartridge was an attempt to circumvent the Smith and Wesson "bored through" cylinder patent

Curss · 05-17-2015, 06:28 PM

The engravings are rather nice looking. Too bad, trying to find ammo now must be nigh impossible!

Patronen · 05-17-2015, 06:47 PM

I found some info on the Moore, they operated from 1862-1865 then the National Arms Company, Brooklyn, NY took over from 1863 to 1870 and made these front loading Daniel Moore patent teat cartridge revolvers. Picture of the gun in the book I looked it up in looks the same as the gun posted.

05-16-2015, 06:26 PM	#1
aldo35 User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Northern GA Posts: 390 Thanks: 2,298 Thanked 184 Times in 91 Posts	Can This Pstol Be Id A friend has this old pistol with no markings whatsoever. Can anyone ID this pistol Attached Thumbnails

05-16-2015, 09:38 PM	#2
Patronen User Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 312 Thanks: 335 Thanked 93 Times in 70 Posts	It looks to be in the form of what were called "Suicide Specials" this looks like an early type being that most of them had a cylinder release pin where this one shows it's cap and ball heritage. It may be a conversion but I am thinking it was built that way from the ground up just into the cartridge era. What caliber is it? Any guess? .22,.32 etc. The cylinder lockup appears interesting as well. It appears to have a serial number or something under the missing grips. It may also have been hand made. __________________ Dave

05-17-2015, 01:05 PM	#4
Curss User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 307 Thanks: 304 Thanked 98 Times in 75 Posts	It might be a Moore's Patent Front loading revolver. Simpson's has a VERY similar revolver listed under antiques! Even the engraving looks similar! Inventory number C19517 http://www.simpsonltd.com/product_in...ducts_id=34989 __________________ -Chris

05-17-2015, 02:04 PM	#5
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,040 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,257 Times in 1,724 Posts	Moores was my impression. I seem to recall that the teat fire cartridge was an attempt to circumvent the Smith and Wesson "bored through" cylinder patent __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

05-17-2015, 06:28 PM	#6
Curss User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 307 Thanks: 304 Thanked 98 Times in 75 Posts	The engravings are rather nice looking. Too bad, trying to find ammo now must be nigh impossible! __________________ -Chris

05-16-2015, 10:13 PM	#3
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,966 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,595 Times in 2,116 Posts	Looks like a smith & wesson knock-off ? I know there were many made in the later 1900's? Would Smiths book cover something like this? Ed

05-17-2015, 06:47 PM	#7
Patronen User Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 312 Thanks: 335 Thanked 93 Times in 70 Posts	I found some info on the Moore, they operated from 1862-1865 then the National Arms Company, Brooklyn, NY took over from 1863 to 1870 and made these front loading Daniel Moore patent teat cartridge revolvers. Picture of the gun in the book I looked it up in looks the same as the gun posted. __________________ Dave

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