What came first??

cirelaw · 12-09-2013, 08:13 PM

The lanyards or the lanyard rings. Were they retained to hold the luger in the blueing process? ~~~ any thoughts? ~~Eric

Edward Tinker · 12-09-2013, 08:34 PM

military requirements

do you have a lanyard ring on your american eagles Eric

cirelaw · 12-09-2013, 08:39 PM

Tks Ed! Yes I do but also on my 1902 Fat Barrel and my 1908 commercial. Were there any that didn't? Who made those missing lanyards besides Jerrry? Just kidding!

spartacus38 · 12-09-2013, 09:13 PM

The egg came before the chicken.I think.
Bob

cirelaw · 12-09-2013, 09:23 PM

Found these examples!

Maestro · 12-09-2013, 09:40 PM

very cool

cirelaw · 12-10-2013, 01:07 PM

Someone added this leather pull tab to this 1929 police! All hand stiched~~~

alanint · 12-10-2013, 01:09 PM

I think this setup is much more effective than the holster pull-up strap.

MikeP · 12-11-2013, 03:41 AM

You will see few if any military pistols without a lanyard ring-sez me just as my eye falls on my M34 Beretta.
Guess its a few if any.
Securing equipment with straps can be a big asset in some uses and just as much a liability as well.

alanint · 12-11-2013, 08:13 AM

To answer the question. I would have to say that lanyards came first. Men decided that they needed a way to secure their weapons/gear. They tied lengths of rope or strips of leather to them so they would not get lost. Someone said one day: "We need a specific attachment point for this securing rope or piece of leather, so it is not in the way of the working parts of my weapon or gear". Thus the lanyard loop or attachment point was born.
The end

Ron Wood · 12-11-2013, 10:43 AM

Doug,
I disagree. I drilled a hole in my flint hand axe to attach a thong so that my knuckles would be the only things dragging the ground. Therefore, the attachment point preceeded the lanyard.

Jack Lawman · 12-11-2013, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Wood

Doug,
I disagree. I drilled a hole in my flint hand axe to attach a thong so that my knuckles would be the only things dragging the ground. Therefore, the attachment point preceeded the lanyard.

I simply tied a thong around a non-specific point on my axe handle and snuck up on you whilst you drilled your hole.... so maybe not?

Jack

Ron Wood · 12-11-2013, 11:58 AM

You had a handle on your axe? Obviously a much later development, so my example still came first.

Arizona Slim · 12-11-2013, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron Wood

You had a handle on your axe? Obviously a much later development, so my example still came first.

Looks like Ron came out ahead.....again.

Lon

cirelaw · 12-11-2013, 01:00 PM

Their wallet???

Ron Wood · 12-11-2013, 01:53 PM

That is a "Schützenschnur", an award for marksmanship.

cirelaw · 12-11-2013, 04:56 PM

I never reazed it is awarded to Americans also! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_...f_Marksmanship

12-09-2013, 08:13 PM	#1
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,138 Times in 2,176 Posts	What came first?? The lanyards or the lanyard rings. Were they retained to hold the luger in the blueing process? ~~~ any thoughts? ~~Eric

12-09-2013, 08:39 PM	#3
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,138 Times in 2,176 Posts	Tks Ed! Yes I do but also on my 1902 Fat Barrel and my 1908 commercial. Were there any that didn't? Who made those missing lanyards besides Jerrry? Just kidding! Attached Images

12-09-2013, 09:23 PM	#5
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,138 Times in 2,176 Posts	Found these examples! Attached Images

12-10-2013, 01:07 PM	#7
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,138 Times in 2,176 Posts	Heres a nice touch!! Someone added this leather pull tab to this 1929 police! All hand stiched~~~ Attached Thumbnails

12-11-2013, 10:43 AM	#11
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,040 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,257 Times in 1,724 Posts	Doug, I disagree. I drilled a hole in my flint hand axe to attach a thong so that my knuckles would be the only things dragging the ground. Therefore, the attachment point preceeded the lanyard. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

12-09-2013, 08:34 PM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,966 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,595 Times in 2,116 Posts	military requirements do you have a lanyard ring on your american eagles Eric

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spartacus38 Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: South Lake Tahoe,CA. Posts: 695 Thanks: 0 Thanked 70 Times in 56 Posts	The egg came before the chicken.I think. Bob

12-09-2013, 09:40 PM	#6
Maestro User Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: "Where the streets have no names" Posts: 504 Thanks: 192 Thanked 200 Times in 136 Posts	very cool

12-10-2013, 01:09 PM	#8
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	I think this setup is much more effective than the holster pull-up strap.

12-11-2013, 03:41 AM	#9
MikeP User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: ILL Posts: 686 Thanks: 36 Thanked 452 Times in 198 Posts	You will see few if any military pistols without a lanyard ring-sez me just as my eye falls on my M34 Beretta. Guess its a few if any. Securing equipment with straps can be a big asset in some uses and just as much a liability as well.

12-11-2013, 08:13 AM	#10
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	To answer the question. I would have to say that lanyards came first. Men decided that they needed a way to secure their weapons/gear. They tied lengths of rope or strips of leather to them so they would not get lost. Someone said one day: "We need a specific attachment point for this securing rope or piece of leather, so it is not in the way of the working parts of my weapon or gear". Thus the lanyard loop or attachment point was born. The end

12-11-2013, 11:58 AM	#13
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,040 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,257 Times in 1,724 Posts	You had a handle on your axe? Obviously a much later development, so my example still came first. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

12-11-2013, 01:00 PM	#15
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,138 Times in 2,176 Posts	What Were These Lanyards Atttached To?? Their wallet??? Attached Thumbnails

12-11-2013, 01:53 PM	#16
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,040 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,257 Times in 1,724 Posts	That is a "Schützenschnur", an award for marksmanship. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

12-11-2013, 04:56 PM	#17
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,138 Times in 2,176 Posts	I never reazed it is awarded to Americans also! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_...f_Marksmanship Attached Thumbnails

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