Bob Adams from Adams Guns in the news...

dietrich · 02-01-2013, 07:02 AM

http://www.krqe.com/dpp/news/crime/f...0-guns-in-raid

Curly1 · 02-01-2013, 09:33 AM

Never bought anythng from him but did occasionally visit his site.

I thought his stuff was overpriced and most of the descriptions include the words rare or unusual.

He certainly doesn't have 599 guns listed on his site.

Guess I can delete him from my favorites.

Edward Tinker · 02-01-2013, 09:35 AM

I guess if its listed in the paper, then he's 'guilty'

wow

calibrator · 02-01-2013, 11:20 AM

As I read it, he "ticked" the wrong person off (deal gone wrong ???), and the DHS, BATF, or WTF took advantage of the current climate to shut him down. I know that the Feds will keep you under surveillance for yrs, if need be, and will wait for "just the right moment" to spring when you are weakest. I had a friend years ago, who was involved in a "gun deal", just one that was questionable. They tapped his phone for over a year, and waited until his father died, and served the warrant at the funeral.

I don't know Bob, but I did know Ralph, and it sounds like they were similar operators. We'll never know the truth here, sounds like he was trying to save rare collectables from having to be import stamped and controlled by an over-reaching government, as the main charge.

andwaahs · 02-01-2013, 01:18 PM

“Its very scary in the fact that the school is so close by makes it seem even more dangerous.”

And here lies the point of the story dear friends, The mans main charge seems to be tax evasion yet its about a gun dealer/collector

not a car dealer/collector. hence the story has the wow factor to get the attention of the gun grabbers and use it as a propaganda device

alvin · 02-01-2013, 03:12 PM

Bought the 3-volume book "C96 Geschichte & Modelle" from Bob last year. I guess he's a nice man.

Does this news report imply that he failed to add "importer's stamp" on the guns that he imported from Canada?

John Sabato · 02-01-2013, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by alvin

Does this news report imply that he failed to add "importer's stamp" on the guns that he imported from Canada?

Implication is the only thing going for this "news" article. They are a long way from convicting him... unless they can PROVE that his source for non-import marked firearms came from outside the country directly to him.

He has been in business a LONG TIME. Check out his website. His prices may be somewhat high, but I don't think they are outrageous... he is a RETAILER, not just a collector.

Sure wish I OWNED over a thousand guns! I hope he is in the clear and gets them all back.

cirelaw · 02-01-2013, 04:43 PM

Our system of law goes back to our constitution and articles and before it English common law. A person is not guilty until proven beyond reasonable doubt. Emotions and hearsay sometimes muddy the truth. I know nothing regarded the gentleman but ask us to reserve judgement until all the facts are in! And then only those facts that are proven beyond doubt not mearly a preponderance of admissable evidence which only applies to civil Law. If the tables were turned we would hope and pray the same! Eric~

BogeyB · 02-01-2013, 07:31 PM

I've done business with Bob and found him to be a stand up dealer. I hope this isn't a start of a national "witch hunt".

Mike

MikeP · 02-04-2013, 11:06 PM

Another rumour involves importations with or without markings as specified.

lew1 · 02-09-2013, 06:38 PM

I know Bob. He has some rare, one of a kind pistols, 3 or 4 of which I would love to have. He has others which are not in my field. I have never known him to cheat on the paper work.

Also, a friend has this auction bug and buys a lot of weapons, some of which he sends to Bob on consignment (which were part of what was taken).

If he had committed a crime, I am sure that they would have taken him at the same time they took the weapons.

alanint · 02-10-2013, 03:21 PM

Now you are going to see collector's firearms jumbled together is boxes and beaten half to death by people ignorant of their history and value.

He may never see any of these firearms back.

02-01-2013, 07:02 AM	#1
dietrich User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: NM Posts: 32 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Bob Adams from Adams Guns in the news... http://www.krqe.com/dpp/news/crime/f...0-guns-in-raid

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Curly1 User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Upstate New York Posts: 1,247 Thanks: 125 Thanked 717 Times in 374 Posts	Never bought anythng from him but did occasionally visit his site. I thought his stuff was overpriced and most of the descriptions include the words rare or unusual. He certainly doesn't have 599 guns listed on his site. Guess I can delete him from my favorites. __________________ Laugh hard and often. Gary

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BogeyB Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Mc Donough, GA. Posts: 422 Thanks: 0 Thanked 227 Times in 99 Posts	I've done business with Bob and found him to be a stand up dealer. I hope this isn't a start of a national "witch hunt". Mike __________________ MAGA Always!! NRA Benifactor, GCA

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lew1 Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 1,108 Thanks: 82 Thanked 204 Times in 112 Posts	I know Bob. He has some rare, one of a kind pistols, 3 or 4 of which I would love to have. He has others which are not in my field. I have never known him to cheat on the paper work. Also, a friend has this auction bug and buys a lot of weapons, some of which he sends to Bob on consignment (which were part of what was taken). If he had committed a crime, I am sure that they would have taken him at the same time they took the weapons. __________________ charlie

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Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,966 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,595 Times in 2,116 Posts	I guess if its listed in the paper, then he's 'guilty' wow

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calibrator User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Cave Creek Posts: 315 Thanks: 55 Thanked 244 Times in 93 Posts	As I read it, he "ticked" the wrong person off (deal gone wrong ???), and the DHS, BATF, or WTF took advantage of the current climate to shut him down. I know that the Feds will keep you under surveillance for yrs, if need be, and will wait for "just the right moment" to spring when you are weakest. I had a friend years ago, who was involved in a "gun deal", just one that was questionable. They tapped his phone for over a year, and waited until his father died, and served the warrant at the funeral. I don't know Bob, but I did know Ralph, and it sounds like they were similar operators. We'll never know the truth here, sounds like he was trying to save rare collectables from having to be import stamped and controlled by an over-reaching government, as the main charge.

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andwaahs User Join Date: May 2012 Location: Norway Posts: 85 Thanks: 41 Thanked 14 Times in 9 Posts	“Its very scary in the fact that the school is so close by makes it seem even more dangerous.” And here lies the point of the story dear friends, The mans main charge seems to be tax evasion yet its about a gun dealer/collector not a car dealer/collector. hence the story has the wow factor to get the attention of the gun grabbers and use it as a propaganda device

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alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	Bought the 3-volume book "C96 Geschichte & Modelle" from Bob last year. I guess he's a nice man. Does this news report imply that he failed to add "importer's stamp" on the guns that he imported from Canada?

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cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,138 Times in 2,176 Posts	Our system of law goes back to our constitution and articles and before it English common law. A person is not guilty until proven beyond reasonable doubt. Emotions and hearsay sometimes muddy the truth. I know nothing regarded the gentleman but ask us to reserve judgement until all the facts are in! And then only those facts that are proven beyond doubt not mearly a preponderance of admissable evidence which only applies to civil Law. If the tables were turned we would hope and pray the same! Eric~

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MikeP User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: ILL Posts: 686 Thanks: 36 Thanked 452 Times in 198 Posts	Another rumour involves importations with or without markings as specified.

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alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	Now you are going to see collector's firearms jumbled together is boxes and beaten half to death by people ignorant of their history and value. He may never see any of these firearms back.