6" .30 Luger barrel, 1900 style

[sheepherder]

Originally Posted by Ron Wood

Wow, beautiful! It didn't take you long to knock that out! Do you have to harden the cutting edges?

I have two thoughts on that -

(1) Better that it re-forms the thread, not cut more off. Work it in & out, with oil, repeatedly. Use polishing compound if necessary.

(2) The barrel steel is pretty soft; I don't know if it will harden...And I would probably lose the 'edge' of the 6 grooves if I heat it...

If you want to try it, shoot me an address & I'll get it out to you.

[Ron Wood]

I am composing a lengthy email to send to you. When I have all my thoughts together and have my income tax finished (deadline approaching...danger, danger!) I will get it out to you. I am interested in the "thread chaser" and other things. Thanks for your offer of help, it is most appreciated.

P.S. You sold me a pair of Star BM grips almost two years ago.

[sheepherder]

I am reading Kenyon's article, and he says the insert used five dovetails ?!?!?

I'm not familiar with the 'fat barrel'...Is there a drawing or dimensions of the 'fat' part here somewhere???

(I'm guessing the 'fat' part is the taper)

[sheepherder]

I was interested in seeing what a 'baby' with a 75mm barrel [~3in] and '7 shot' grip frame would look like...

[ithacaartist]

Originally Posted by sheepherder

I was interested in seeing what a 'baby' with a 75mm barrel [~3in] and '7 shot' grip frame would look like...

Rich, you Photoshop Wizard, you... This combo has just the right visual balance to please my eye. The ones I've seen pics of with less exposed barrel always looked kinda stupid to me. This one looks great!

Originally Posted by Ron Wood

Maybe someday mine will look like that.

I hope so, too, Ron. Heck, short of the finish, it's just the bbl. to add, then tune up that recoil spring and start shootin'? It already looks fantastic, those ivory doo-dads really give it a punch up, visually!

[Ron Wood]

Really cool photo manipulation. Maybe someday mine will look like that.

[Lugerdoc]

Ron, I note in your photo that you are missing the toggle lock part from it's dovetail in the frame. I have these available @$35 if needed. Tom

[Ron Wood]

Thanks Tom, but I already bought one from you quite some time ago. Installing it is just another thing I haven't gotten around to doing. Someone had staked the old catch (which was missing when I got the frame) into the frame with a couple of punch marks. I want to get the marks TIG filled and I haven't decided whether to do that before or after installing the catch...I'm thinking after...or I might just let them there.

[Ron Wood]

Thank you. The 3-inch fat barrel was my idea and Rich made it observable. That was my intent from the get-go. I have an '02 Fat Barrel and in my minds eye this is what a 7-shot version would look like.

[sheepherder]

Originally Posted by Ron Wood

Thank you. The 3-inch fat barrel was my idea...

Pretty neat idea!

It'd be a shame to cut down a real 'fat barrel'...And any other production Luger barrel wouldn't be 'fat'...

[ithacaartist]

Originally Posted by postino

Won't that have the longer threaded breech end??? Or does your '06 have the longer receiver???

This one is the later, short frame. My better '60 AE has the long frame, but it's in pretty good shape, with the 4 7/8" already. I want a little something different for this gun, which is a definite shooter. Yeah, for a barrel originally installed on a long frame, I'd have to shorten the breech, re-chamber, and re-establish the extractor notch, right?
The combination of 6", pencil profile, and short frame might be hard to come by. I was wondering if they were ever made this way.

Originally Posted by Edward Tinker

I am 'fine' I just got a 6 inch barrel.

Please don't include me in a posting with the words buyers remorse.

jeez

Oops, sorry, Ed. I'm glad you had good luck at the gun show and have another barrel. I'm not sure if it makes any difference, but, above, I said "sellers' remorse", which concept has been discussed on the forum. I've had it; others have admitted to it, as well. I'm about to have another dose of it soon, as I mail off one of the factory original cast front sights for an Erma Ep.22. which I sent for from Germany this summer.

[nukem556]

David....i don't know if you keep an eye on Gunbroker, but not long ago they had a barrel just like you desire, 6in .30, pencil profile. I'm pretty sure Tom Heller still has 6in .30 barrels, but they are the thicker P08 profile

[ithacaartist]

Originally Posted by nukem556

David....i don't know if you keep an eye on Gunbroker, but not long ago they had a barrel just like you desire, 6in .30, pencil profile. I'm pretty sure Tom Heller still has 6in .30 barrels, but they are the thicker P08 profile

Nope, he's out--first place I checked!

I check G.B. pretty much every day. Guess I missed that one. Double Dang!

[ithacaartist]

Nope, nothing there, either Lots of short 7.65 barrels, a few arties; but no 6".. I did notice the pattern of re-listing, as things reappeared going down the list. One for $100 reappeared several times, "Luger barrel needs relined".

[Edward Tinker]

Originally Posted by ithacaartist

Oops, sorry, Ed. I'm glad you had good luck at the gun show and have another barrel. I'm not sure if it makes any difference, but, above, I said "sellers' remorse", which concept has been discussed on the forum. I've had it; others have admitted to it, as well. I'm about to have another dose of it soon, as I mail off one of the factory original cast front sights for an Erma Ep.22. which I sent for from Germany this summer.

sorry, should have had a smilie face

[ithacaartist]

Originally Posted by postino

Another option, although more involved and probably more $$$, is to take the 6"/7.65 barrel w/P-08 profile and 're-profile' it...Turn down the taper to 1900 spec, square off the sight base, and notch the blade...It wouldn't be original. and would require blueing, but it might be acceptable for a 'lesser '06 AE'...

Like some auto racer once said, "There's no substitute for cubic dollars"...

I am considering this, as I said above. I didn't want to do it to the Ed barrel because it's original and in really nice shape; it would be just the thing for building a Navy in 7.65. But one with a good bore, but ugly/damaged on the outside could work pretty well for unearthing the pencil profile from within what is presented by a standard P08 configuration. I could do the lathe work, but I'd have to have someone with a mill take down the O,D. of the barrel band, since the sight block sits on it. Refinishing is something the whole gun needs, so doing the barrel along with it would help assure the finish matches everywhere on the pistol.

No problem having one made from scratch out of the Re. 700 .30s Rick says are available, but at this point, most of it would be beyond the reach of my abilities and facilities. If there is a volunteer who could fashion one in the white for me along these lines, and for, say, $200 or less, speak right up, and I'll find one of these old take-offs!

[John Sabato]

Originally Posted by ithacaartist

I didn't want to do it to the Ed barrel because it's original and in really nice shape; it would be just the thing for building a Navy in 7.65.

Dave please remember that a "Navy" barrel has a higher front sight base to match the higher rear Navy sight.

Just any 6" barrel won't work to make a Navy style Luger with a real or repro Navy rear sight. The sights would be at the wrong angle and the gun would print WAY high on the target. If you are having a custom barrel produced, you will need a front sight base that is roughly 1/16" higher... and adjust from there during the build/test firing to get it right.

[sheepherder]

Dave, IMO, what would go great with that profile barrel is one of the Finnish 'square' front sight blades...