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Unread 01-29-2019, 07:56 PM   #1
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As someone looking to expand my collection, lower prices would be readily received. If my role were that of a long time collector or someone wishing to sell them, I can see the issue on the flip side. That of devaluing the collection and/or not getting the money out of liquidating it or selling them to finance other projects.
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There may be a few minty examples in those chests, but for the most part I suspect they are on the low end of collecting condition. That could drive down the prices a bit for entry level collection pieces, but it would have no effect on high condition Luger prices in my opinion. However, the impact of these guns on the marking is moot as not a one of them will legally make their way into the US and given the current gun climate in Europe not many will end up there either. Parts on the other hand may be a bonanza.
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Do we currently have a ban on importing this stuff? i had it in my head that the "good ole' days" are behind us as far as large quantities of warehoused arms showing up on the US market.
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... and given the current gun climate in Europe not many will end up there either...
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Can they not be imported because they are in Russia?
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Can they not be imported because they are in Russia?
That would be "a" reason; they also don't meet import criteria- if you mean the Tokarev pistols.
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Venezuela could use them right about now.
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Buy T-33 here, scroll down to second item: https://mailchi.mp/aimsurplus/new-sh...s?e=cee4516609

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That's what people like Sam Cummings looked for... They are worth too much to just melt down and will show up somewhere in the future. Just like the Chinese Mausers brought into North Carolina years ago. Negotiations will continue...
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That's what people like Sam Cummings looked for... They are worth too much to just melt down and will show up somewhere in the future. Just like the Chinese Mausers brought into North Carolina years ago. Negotiations will continue...
Unfortunately, no. Dumpsters of Soviet Russian TT-33 and Makarov pistols, and US 1911A1 pistols gone to the cruncher.





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A good substitute: https://www.classicfirearms.com/yugo...-surplus-9rd/?
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Knew I had at least one photo of the Makarov pistols on the way to the cruncher, just took me a while to remember where I'd filed it:

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Kyrie, I'd thank you for sharing those photos of destroyed firearms...but I am too busy crying and grieving.
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I can empathize, but GCA '68 pretty much killed the importation of military surplus firearms into the USA. If it wasn't commercial w/sporting use, or police with sporting use, it wasn't importable into the US.

It wasn't until 1986, with the Firearm Owners' Protection Act, and policy changes at the Federal level, that we once more began to see some limited amount of what used to be called "military surplus" firearms. And even then the point system and minimum feature requirements remained in effect (which is why all the TT-33s imported after '86 had safeties installed).
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Right, but the later restrictions placed on "weapons of war" against China (by Clinton) and Russia (by Obama) stopped Makarovs and other Com-bloc weapons from otherwise legal import. Trump could reverse those orders, if he was made aware and saw fit to do so.
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I would love to have a few of those MG42s

they would be an awesome tool for taking down unwanted farm silos!

https://youtu.be/EzKvwYt3Zyg

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