Nambu Type 14 Pistol

[sheepherder]

Originally Posted by zormpas

Ok, did another measurement - the case diameter directly in front of the groove .412". Yea, I do see the .407" on the HL page - if its any help at all, the 'Rim Diameter' dimension 'D' is .412" on my example also - shown as .417" in the diagram.

This ammo is reputed to feed and shoot well, but as I have yet to try it myself in my weapon, all bets are off! Goddess only knows the provenance of the brass.

Zorba -

Thanks for your measurements! They made me think (always a dangerous act)!!!

OK, I've got it now...I've been looking at my '8mm Nambu' cartridge as being original Japanese issue, or at least Western Cartridge Company clone...Now I realize I have a reformed military 5.56mm [M16] cartridge with a 102gr - .320" lead bullet...The headstamp should have been immediately obvious...



In a way, that's good. It looks right and according to at least one online article will function correctly.

But it means that I got ripped off back in 1977 or so! I've got half a mind to look that nefarious dealer up and demand my dollar back!!!

But I need a 'template' so I can sort through the junk box at my LGS and pull out other suitable candidates for re-forming. The list of donor cases is getting pretty long. Now I read that .357 Sig will work as well as 30 Remington, 30-30 Winchester, 38 Special/.357 Magnum, 38 Super, .223 Remington, and 41 Colt Long. 32 Remington and 375 Winchester can be used if they are swaged in a 30-30 sizing die before forming...Some need the rim trimmed and an extractor groove cut, but those are easy on a lathe.

[Zorba]

Originally Posted by sheepherder

But it means that I got ripped off back in 1977 or so! I've got half a mind to look that nefarious dealer up and demand my dollar back!!!

I think your warranty has expired...

[sheepherder]

After all the talk about Nambus, I just had to get one!

I can't stay...My generator keeps conking out...and I need it to run my furnace...It's up to 55º now...

[Patronen]

[QUOTE=sheepherder;246622]After all the talk about Nambus, I just had to get one!

I can't stay...My generator keeps conking out...and I need it to run my furnace...It's up to 55º now... [/QUOTE

Did you have bad storm over there?

If it's a gasoline generator, try running non-ethanol gas if not the highest pump gas 93 octane. Anything else in mine runs like, well you get the picture.

Congrats on the Nambu!

[Maestro]

Originally Posted by sheepherder

After all the talk about Nambus, I just had to get one!

I can't stay...My generator keeps conking out...and I need it to run my furnace...It's up to 55º now...

lets not forget about the little guy!

[alvin]

Originally Posted by sheepherder

After all the talk about Nambus, I just had to get one!

Is this one matching?

[DavidJayUden]

No power sucks. Sorry to hear of your trials and tribulations. It is amazing how things all go to he** the second the power stops coming into the home.
Hang in there.
dju

[sheepherder]

From Teri's site I know it is a Nagoya June 1943 T14...

18.6 = June 1943
Right side - 3 symbols
Nagoya Arsenal logo, the Nambu company logo and the First Series marker + serial number

Only running PC once an hour...No emails...That's bad...means my ISP [in Lockport city] has no power either...

Edit: OK! 10:35pm power came back on! Yay!

Still no emails, but I imagine it takes time to spool up all those servers...If anybody is even at the office...

[alvin]

Saw a Bolo on the market, matching, NRA Good. I don't need it, but the asking price was attractive, about $30. So, why not buy one, as a small "investment"... so I ordered one. But it turned out the price was a mistake, a tagging error. The corrected price was not bad, but not investable anymore. Order cancelled. So, no more guns for 2013.

[MikeP]

Bought a 14 and sword from a local vet friend recently.
Still had 20 rounds in the pouch.
Pistol and ammo have been in the holster since the war and all in mint condition.
I know that is not always the case, but I have seen it before.
Seen some bad ones as well.

[Maestro]

Originally Posted by MikeP

Bought a 14 and sword from a local vet friend recently.

Japanese sword?
Do you have pictures?

[sheepherder]

If you have a Nambu Type 14 (or Papa or Baby) please post pictures of them! This IS a Nambu thread...

Edit: I leeched a couple pics from Zoompas' thread...

Olle's T14 -



Zorbas' T14 -

[sheepherder]

Originally Posted by zormpas

Headstamped "H.D.S. 8mm NAMBU".

Originally Posted by zormpas

This ammo is reputed to feed and shoot well, but as I have yet to try it myself in my weapon, all bets are off! Goddess only knows the provenance of the brass.

Found the answer to that -

http://collectorguns35625.yuku.com/t...1929-Standards

"Huntington had basic 357 Sig cases necked to 8mm and had their headstamp applied: HDS 8mm Nambu."

Huntington Die Specialties makes the RCBS line of reloading dies (and probably everything else as well); their quality is excellent.

[Olle]

Originally Posted by sheepherder

If you have a Nambu Type 14 (or Papa or Baby) please post pictures of them! This IS a Nambu thread...

Here's one I restored a while back, belongs to a friend of me now...

[Olle]

I also have a "Luger" I bought on eBay a couple of years ago:

[sheepherder]

Originally Posted by Olle

Here's one I restored a while back, belongs to a friend of me now...

Thank you for the pics!

The grips are interesting; I don't recall if Teri addressed that on her site - Why do some Type 14's have completely checkered/grooved grips, and some only 75%???

BTW: How difficult is it to field strip the T14??? Does the trigger guard sequence pull down easily or is it a bear that requires three hands??? (I've read the takedown procedure; it sounds hard)...

[Maestro]

Originally Posted by Olle

Here's one I restored a while back, belongs to a friend of me now...

wow this is gorgeous! awesome work

[MikeP]

The really late pistols have flat slab grips with no grooves. Just a cost or time measure, I would guess. Late rifle stocks got pretty crude as well.

The pistol and sword I mentioned came from "Salvage" at Nagasaki.
The sword is a really late machine made example.
While the scabbard has a typical throat, hanger loop, and the little band in the middle, it has just a sheet of copper wrapped around the tip-looks like they ran out of the standard bits.

[Maestro]

only Senior & Junior

[sheepherder]

Ed Tinker was kind enough to provide me with one of his original 8mm Nambu cartridges [Thank You, Ed!]. I've attached a pic of it (on the right) compared to a 7.63mm x 25 cartridge headstamped '541 44' (Presumably a C96/M30 Mauser cartridge).

I found it interesting that the Nambu has the same three indentations spaced evenly around the neck to further help hold the bullet in place in the case. Was this typical of all WW II cartridges, or just the Axis powers???

There is also no headstamp on the Nambu round. Was there only one facility providing ammunition for the 8mm nambu, or is this an example of wartime expediency???

Extractor groove is much thinner than I expected...Also interesting is that the rim is within .001" dia of the base...COTW states that it should be 'semi-rimmed', but they only list a .005" dia difference...

(BTW: I've found COTW to be quite lacking in detail)

Edit: I've bought Ed's last OEM 7mm Nambu cartridge...You would not believe how much these old cartridges are going for!!!...