A Bridge Too Far.................. - Page 2

Sergio Natali · 01-28-2015, 05:29 AM

Thanks to all of you, I love History, and reading what you wrote made me feel like "sipping a coup of history" together with friends, I don't now if I can explain myself...

Sergio

Vlim · 01-30-2015, 02:44 PM

Last year, the Dutch military police, supported by the police service that handles the gun permits, behaved in a way that cast a shadow over the Market Garden remembrance organization.

The military police thought it was neccessary to check all the permits and apprehend, hinder and bully those who were taking part in the ceremonies as reenactors and even volunteers from the Dutch army who were there with some old tanks were bullied and several military vehicles were even seized because the MP's thought that the permits were not valid (the case: A permit was applied for 2 or more military vehicles, and the permit holder was present in one of the 3....).

So if you get the chance to complain to the Dutch authorities about this idiotic behavior of the Dutch MP's and their 'colleagues' of the local police departments, please do!

DavidJayUden · 01-30-2015, 04:23 PM

Vlim:
Sounds like official stupidity isn't just an American phenomenon...
dju

Diver6106 · 01-30-2015, 10:55 PM

Interesting. I also contacted the Dutch Museum about MG and offered to provide the particulars and pictures for their archive of the Ridgeway's B-17 flight. They weren't interested as "there wasn't a B-17 participating", despite my references. It also is not listed in official AF History, Lindley was the pilot and probably never wrote up the mission. But my Dad was co-pilot with his crew and they lived thru it and wrote it up for the 95th BG History, and of course Ridgeway in his memoirs. Lindley did remember it at a reunion in Seattle a few years back, but there memories had diverged some by then. Lindley had a whole career of three wars worth of missions by then, Dad had only WWII. Dad added a few particulars to that day 17 September 1944 when he told me about it. I think Holland has closed their archive and are not interest in any changes or additions.

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01-30-2015, 02:44 PM	#22
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,990 Times in 1,205 Posts	Last year, the Dutch military police, supported by the police service that handles the gun permits, behaved in a way that cast a shadow over the Market Garden remembrance organization. The military police thought it was neccessary to check all the permits and apprehend, hinder and bully those who were taking part in the ceremonies as reenactors and even volunteers from the Dutch army who were there with some old tanks were bullied and several military vehicles were even seized because the MP's thought that the permits were not valid (the case: A permit was applied for 2 or more military vehicles, and the permit holder was present in one of the 3....). So if you get the chance to complain to the Dutch authorities about this idiotic behavior of the Dutch MP's and their 'colleagues' of the local police departments, please do!

01-30-2015, 04:23 PM	#23
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Vlim: Sounds like official stupidity isn't just an American phenomenon... dju

01-30-2015, 10:55 PM	#24
Diver6106 User Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Mt. Vernon VA Posts: 245 Thanks: 1,433 Thanked 117 Times in 75 Posts	Interesting. I also contacted the Dutch Museum about MG and offered to provide the particulars and pictures for their archive of the Ridgeway's B-17 flight. They weren't interested as "there wasn't a B-17 participating", despite my references. It also is not listed in official AF History, Lindley was the pilot and probably never wrote up the mission. But my Dad was co-pilot with his crew and they lived thru it and wrote it up for the 95th BG History, and of course Ridgeway in his memoirs. Lindley did remember it at a reunion in Seattle a few years back, but there memories had diverged some by then. Lindley had a whole career of three wars worth of missions by then, Dad had only WWII. Dad added a few particulars to that day 17 September 1944 when he told me about it. I think Holland has closed their archive and are not interest in any changes or additions.