1914 Luger Ammo - Page 2

suum cuique · 08-27-2009, 06:37 PM

Hi,
you are right, that's what I thought. I could not imagine that modern +P+ ammo would be a good idea for a gun, designed for a lower load.

Vlim · 08-26-2009, 07:59 PM

Hi, shooting +P+ or +P in a luger will do it more harm than good. A pretty bad advice from that gun dealer.

The difference between the older ammunition and the modern one is the composition of the powder used, which results in a different pressure curve. Old 9x19 uses a slower burning powder.

Modern 9x19 Winchester (115gr) and S&B (124gr) should work fine in your S/42. The OAL (overall average length) is slightly longer than the SAAMI specified OAL, which helps to reduce feeding issues.

I've been shooting S&B 124gr for years in a 1937 S/42.

Sometimes people try to address technical problems (like bad magazines and worn springs) by using overpowered ammunition. The best thing to do is to make sure the gun, magazines and springs are up to specs and shoot ammunition that is tried and tested in these guns.

suum cuique · 08-26-2009, 10:16 PM

Thanks for your posting. I already thought that the advise of the gun dealer is a bad idea. The P.08 was not created to use this high powered ammo.

But the gun dealer ment, that the WW2 ammo was even used for the MP 40 and the mechanismn of a luger needs hot ammo.
I had a friend using S&B ammo, he blew off the upper part of the gun. This happend in the late 1980s.
I used Remington 115 grain ammo (FMJ), this ammo worked just fine without any problems.
This is my first Luger and I just shot it last week for the first time.
Thanks,
Andy

08-27-2009, 06:37 PM	#1
suum cuique User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: MD / Currently about 9000 klicks east of the Potomac Posts: 497 Thanks: 108 Thanked 47 Times in 35 Posts	thanks Hi, you are right, that's what I thought. I could not imagine that modern +P+ ammo would be a good idea for a gun, designed for a lower load.

08-26-2009, 10:16 PM	#3
suum cuique User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: MD / Currently about 9000 klicks east of the Potomac Posts: 497 Thanks: 108 Thanked 47 Times in 35 Posts	Thanks Thanks for your posting. I already thought that the advise of the gun dealer is a bad idea. The P.08 was not created to use this high powered ammo. But the gun dealer ment, that the WW2 ammo was even used for the MP 40 and the mechanismn of a luger needs hot ammo. I had a friend using S&B ammo, he blew off the upper part of the gun. This happend in the late 1980s. I used Remington 115 grain ammo (FMJ), this ammo worked just fine without any problems. This is my first Luger and I just shot it last week for the first time. Thanks, Andy

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08-26-2009, 07:59 PM	#2
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,991 Times in 1,205 Posts	Hi, shooting +P+ or +P in a luger will do it more harm than good. A pretty bad advice from that gun dealer. The difference between the older ammunition and the modern one is the composition of the powder used, which results in a different pressure curve. Old 9x19 uses a slower burning powder. Modern 9x19 Winchester (115gr) and S&B (124gr) should work fine in your S/42. The OAL (overall average length) is slightly longer than the SAAMI specified OAL, which helps to reduce feeding issues. I've been shooting S&B 124gr for years in a 1937 S/42. Sometimes people try to address technical problems (like bad magazines and worn springs) by using overpowered ammunition. The best thing to do is to make sure the gun, magazines and springs are up to specs and shoot ammunition that is tried and tested in these guns.